I'm new to masters this year and have had two meets since January. The first 500 was 5:50 and the second one was 5:51. I can't hold on to my pace after 350. I'm 49 and am working out 5 days a week. Most days are 3000 yards. Once a week I go 4000 yards. Most of my workouts are 250-500 yard swims, with some 100's on 1:30. I can go 6:10 in the middle of practice without killing myself. Why can't I do better in a meet? In meets my first 100 is 1:03 and at 200 at 2:11. Why the fall off? Any meet nutruition ideas? Workout ideas? Pacing ideas?
I have heard a Eddie Reese (maybe the world's best coach) say that there are only four ways to get faster
1. improve technique
2. get stronger
3. harder workouts
4. if the workouts can't get any harder then swim the same workouts faster
This is obviously dated. He'd have to amend it now by adding;
5. Wear a good full body suit
The speed improvement effect of a tech suit is different for each swimmer. Depends on the suit & fit, the swimmers' proportions, characteristics, & expectations.
The Speedo FS Pro Highneck Bodyskin is probably the fastest suit for the money, only $203.
but as I wrote in my earlier post, I'm not sure what is going to be approved by FINA in their PHASE 1 testing. I really like the Blue Seventy Nero Comp, I hope it passes PHASE 1 but the current model won't pass PHASE 2 so it's done on Jan 1, 2010.
Ande
Thanks coaches! I'm really suprised about the performance of the full body suit! 3 seconds per 100? Can I get by with a suit for $250? I will get one, but how durable is it? I assume it would be for meets and time trials only, but I would think that I should practice in it to get used to it and try to determine new pace splits. The two meets that I've been in, I had the lap counter person signal me as far as my pace. Do you agree with this?
Very exciting information gentlemen!
I don't think the suits are as fragile as they are made out to be. I have used my last fs pro high neck for about 40 swims before i retired it because it was getting a little loose. but it was still fast.
I suggest getting an fs pro high neck. i just got mine from metroswimshop.com for 210 bucks. if they don't have them try swimoutlet.com
Ya, you should probably take it to a practice and try it out. they feel weird when you are not used to them.
regarding figuring out your pacing: don't worry too much about the exact pace time. instead just try going by feel. of course this is just one school of thought. some coaches would say use the clock. i prefer feel most of the time because i rarely see swimmers stick to their pace in races. we normally over or under shoot the mark, anyway.
fyi...3 seconds per hundred is just a guess. it varies for everyone. and that number is for someone at your current speed in a 500. so, ya. i think you can expect a 15 second drop with a suit. who knows maybe even more...lets hope!
good luck
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The Speedo FS Pro Highneck Bodyskin is probably the fastest suit for the money, only $203.
but as I wrote in my earlier post, I'm not sure what is going to be approved by FINA in their PHASE 1 testing. I really like the Blue Seventy Nero Comp, I hope it passes PHASE 1 but the current model won't pass PHASE 2 so it's done on Jan 1, 2010.
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Where do I look for the pro hineck? Never mind , I just reread it .
Hi Paige,
You're welcome,
I hope it helps you swim faster faster.
Let me know how you do.
Ande
Thanks Ande, this is really helpful to me. It makes sense...now I just have to follow it. I mean it. This is good advice for a 500.
Paige
I bought the fs pro and should have had someone film me trying to fit into it! What a sight. After 20 minutes, it wasn't going to happen. I have a 35" waist and this suit will not work for me. I exchanged it for a Nike Hydra which fits very well. I was concerned that the performance wouldn't be noticeable, but boy was I wrong! I couldn't believe how fast I was with no extra effort. I was 2-3 seconds faster per 100 in practice than normal! The suit was $153.
I have been taking the advice of what many of you had said, Swim faster in practice and put more intensity into the practice. I upped the yardage about 500 yards a day as well. The last few weeks have shown some break through times. My last broken 500 was 6:00 including the 30 seconds of rest. This is 20 seconds faster than a month ago. The advice you have all given should be a guide for others. It works!
With Nationals just around the corner I could use some taper advice.
Scott, I read the title of this thread quickly, then read your post about having trouble getting into your fastskin pro.
God help me but I concluded that your were talking about lb. not distance, as in the last 150 lb. of your former weight of 500 lb. finally fell off.
I was going to recommend you go on the Biggest Loser when I realized my mistake,
In any event, keep up the good work, and I hope that the last 150 of your 500 climbs back up!