I'm new to masters this year and have had two meets since January. The first 500 was 5:50 and the second one was 5:51. I can't hold on to my pace after 350. I'm 49 and am working out 5 days a week. Most days are 3000 yards. Once a week I go 4000 yards. Most of my workouts are 250-500 yard swims, with some 100's on 1:30. I can go 6:10 in the middle of practice without killing myself. Why can't I do better in a meet? In meets my first 100 is 1:03 and at 200 at 2:11. Why the fall off? Any meet nutruition ideas? Workout ideas? Pacing ideas?
consider getting a larger PRO, I could get into an X-Large but couldn't get the Large FS PRO past my butt. Tech Suits can make a HUGE diff.
Glad to see you're swimming faster faster. I'm curious to find out how much you're going to improve your 500 time.
I bought the fs pro and should have had someone film me trying to fit into it! What a sight. After 20 minutes, it wasn't going to happen. I have a 35" waist and this suit will not work for me. I exchanged it for a Nike Hydra which fits very well. I was concerned that the performance wouldn't be noticeable, but boy was I wrong! I couldn't believe how fast I was with no extra effort. I was 2-3 seconds faster per 100 in practice than normal! The suit was $153.
I have been taking the advice of what many of you had said,
Swim faster in practice and
put more intensity into the practice.
I upped the yardage about 500 yards a day as well. The last few weeks have shown some break through times. My last broken 500 was 6:00 including the 30 seconds of rest. This is 20 seconds faster than a month ago. The advice you have all given should be a guide for others. It works!
With Nationals just around the corner I could use some taper advice.
I swam at nationals and had great races! My 500 did not fall off at all thanks to the advice given. I came into the meet with a seed time of 5:50 and swam a 5:30 in the race. The first 50 was 30 seconds then all 33's and finished with a 32! Very consistant pace due to learning what this pace felt like when fresh and tired. For anyone having the same problem that I did with the last 150 falling off should follow what was written here. I'm living proof that the advice is good.
As a note, I tapered for 2 weeks, got lots of rest and ate very little red meat. I stuck with turkey and chicken quite often. I raced at 9:00 am so the day of the race I had part of a Powerbar, water and half gatorade. My warm up was 700 easy yards with a couple 50's at race pace. I had 90 minutes rest after warm ups. It was a winning combination that nearly got me the Iowa masters record for the 500 in the 45-49 age group. I missed it by .16 seconds. I turn 50 in June, so new goals are being set. Thanks again and good luck to all of you 500 atheletes.
I want to give a special thanks to Jack Groselle of Ohio. I met Jack and his wife at the Nationals dinner. He was very encouraging and actually watched my 500. (Jack owns several world records so his support meant a lot!)
Scott Gerkin
I swam at nationals and had great races! My 500 did not fall off at all thanks to the advice given. I came into the meet with a seed time of 5:50 and swam a 5:30 in the race. The first 50 was 30 seconds then all 33's and finished with a 32! Very consistant pace due to learning what this pace felt like when fresh and tired. For anyone having the same problem that I did with the last 150 falling off should follow what was written here. I'm living proof that the advice is good.
As a note, I tapered for 2 weeks, got lots of rest and ate very little red meat. I stuck with turkey and chicken quite often. I raced at 9:00 am so the day of the race I had part of a Powerbar, water and half gatorade. My warm up was 700 easy yards with a couple 50's at race pace. I had 90 minutes rest after warm ups. It was a winning combination that nearly got me the Iowa masters record for the 500 in the 45-49 age group. I missed it by .16 seconds. I turn 50 in June, so new goals are being set. Thanks again and good luck to all of you 500 atheletes.
I want to give a special thanks to Jack Groselle of Ohio. I met Jack and his wife at the Nationals dinner. He was very encouraging and actually watched my 500. (Jack owns several world records so his support meant a lot!)
Scott Gerkin
Wow. Great swim. You must feel encouraged and also excited about how much faster you can go with more hard work.
Hey Scott,
Congratulations, that's exciting! you made huge improvements.
dropping from 5:50.40 to 5:30
on April 21st I wrote
"I'm curious to find out how much you're going to improve your 500 time."
and here's the answer
13 Gerkin, Scott 49 IAMA 5:30.14
30.13
1:03.18 (33.05)
1:36.68 (33.50)
2:10.54 (33.86) 1:07.36
2:44.32 (33.78)
3:17.49 (33.17) 1:06.95
3:50.81 (33.32)
4:24.22 (33.41) 1:06.73
4:57.38 (33.16)
5:30.14 (32.76) 1:05.92 2:45.82
I think your 4th & 5th 50's should have been slightly faster. Your 10th should have been much faster, really kick it into overdrive on that last 50, 6 beat kick & give it everything you've got.
What suit did you wear?
Looks to me like you followed MY Suggestions to the letter, more, even more, suit links
You proved you can swim faster faster,
Now swim faster faster next season.
Way to go!
Ande
I swam at nationals and had great races! My 500 did not fall off at all thanks to the advice given. I came into the meet with a seed time of 5:50 and swam a 5:30 in the race. The first 50 was 30 seconds then all 33's and finished with a 32! Very consistant pace due to learning what this pace felt like when fresh and tired. For anyone having the same problem that I did with the last 150 falling off should follow what was written here. I'm living proof that the advice is good.
As a note, I tapered for 2 weeks, got lots of rest and ate very little red meat. I stuck with turkey and chicken quite often. I raced at 9:00 am so the day of the race I had part of a Powerbar, water and half gatorade. My warm up was 700 easy yards with a couple 50's at race pace. I had 90 minutes rest after warm ups. It was a winning combination that nearly got me the Iowa masters record for the 500 in the 45-49 age group. I missed it by .16 seconds. I turn 50 in June, so new goals are being set. Thanks again and good luck to all of you 500 atheletes.
I want to give a special thanks to Jack Groselle of Ohio. I met Jack and his wife at the Nationals dinner. He was very encouraging and actually watched my 500. (Jack owns several world records so his support meant a lot!)
Scott Gerkin
Scott, you may be a gerkin now. But with hard work and dedication, I have no doubt that you will be a kosher dill soon. The Iowa records in the 500 are going down!
Ande, Thanks you for your help! This has been one of my best experiences ever. The suit I wore was a Nike Hydra. I bought an FS Pro but it was too small and I couldn't get it on. For simpicity of suit size and availability I got the Hydra. It worked well for me. I saw a lot of Blueseventy suits at Nationals. Are they that much better?
This summer I'm going to cross train and then hit the pool hard in the fall. Hopefully I will break some Iowa records next season. Do you want to help me do it?! Thanks again.
Scott
Go for it Scott, Good luck.
ande
Ande, Thanks you for your help! This has been one of my best experiences ever. The suit I wore was a Nike Hydra. I bought an FS Pro but it was too small and I couldn't get it on. For simpicity of suit size and availability I got the Hydra. It worked well for me. I saw a lot of Blueseventy suits at Nationals. Are they that much better?
This summer I'm going to cross train and then hit the pool hard in the fall. Hopefully I will break some Iowa records next season. Do you want to help me do it?! Thanks again.
Scott
In early December, all of my dedication to swimming paid of by setting a pending Iowa Master record in the 500 free. (50-54) My time was 5:26.91. The previous record set in 1998 was 5:30.86. I want to thank all of you for your help! I also want to thank my swimming partner and coach, Roger Madden.
In early December, all of my dedication to swimming paid of by setting a pending Iowa Master record in the 500 free. (50-54) My time was 5:26.91. The previous record set in 1998 was 5:30.86. I want to thank all of you for your help! I also want to thank my swimming partner and coach, Roger Madden.
Congratulations, Scott!
I think that with this new record, you deserve a name change. You are no longer a Gerkin. From this day henceforth, I will think of you as Scott Dill!
Congratulations!
Way to go!
You seriously dropped your time
What were your splits?
In early December, all of my dedication to swimming paid of by setting a pending Iowa Master record in the 500 free. (50-54) My time was 5:26.91. The previous record set in 1998 was 5:30.86. I want to thank all of you for your help! I also want to thank my swimming partner and coach, Roger Madden.