As an "outsider" to the world of "hardcore" swimming ...

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I swim a lot and really enjoy it. It's something I've done all of my life, growing up in Southern California, and it's my main form of exercise. I'm good at it, but I do it primarily for health and enjoyment. I've noticed from lurking around this board for several years that there seems to be a very self-congratulatory, cliquish tone to many threads and posts. It seems like it's often a small group of people who post relentlessly, as if they are engaged in some sort of private conversation where they're trying to outdo each other. Maybe I'm the only one who feels that way. Maybe that's part and parcel of the world of "hardcore" competitive swimmers. Or maybe it's because there wouldn't be anything else to talk about, unless there weren't a constant focus on who's the "best" at this or that. A race is something that happens once in a while, whereas a lifetime of swimming lasts, well, a lifetime. Yes, it's great to break a certain time in a certain race, but it's also great to have the self-discpline to keep at a daily swimming program and work on improving one's technique and endurance. Both are valid, and, to my mind, neither is more worthy of praise than the other. Jim Thornton, if I recall correctly, noted a while ago that there were a lot of people lurking around the board and not really participating. If that is the case, I would propose that may be due to the general off-putting tone of things on here. (I won't give examples at this point, although I could.)
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  • In the last few weeks I've seen two new members on this forum and noticed the difference in how the others interact with them. One comes here with an attitude, whining about the cliques and inside jokes and so on and basically created his own "outsider" situation. The other just jumped right in, " Hi guys, I'm new to swimming and could use some advice. Can you help?" He is rapidly becoming an accepted part of this forum. We were all outsiders at one time, for me, first it was swimming since I began as a fitness swimmer in my late forties. Then as an outsider on this forum when I joined a little more than 2 years ago. This forum has helped me to become a better swimmer, I've made connections with other forum members here that led to us actually meeting at swim meets and becoming friends. This forum and swimming is what you make of it. You come with a chip on your shoulder and a "nobody loves me" attitude and guess what? You reap what you sow.
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  • In the last few weeks I've seen two new members on this forum and noticed the difference in how the others interact with them. One comes here with an attitude, whining about the cliques and inside jokes and so on and basically created his own "outsider" situation. The other just jumped right in, " Hi guys, I'm new to swimming and could use some advice. Can you help?" He is rapidly becoming an accepted part of this forum. We were all outsiders at one time, for me, first it was swimming since I began as a fitness swimmer in my late forties. Then as an outsider on this forum when I joined a little more than 2 years ago. This forum has helped me to become a better swimmer, I've made connections with other forum members here that led to us actually meeting at swim meets and becoming friends. This forum and swimming is what you make of it. You come with a chip on your shoulder and a "nobody loves me" attitude and guess what? You reap what you sow.
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