As an "outsider" to the world of "hardcore" swimming ...
Former Member
I swim a lot and really enjoy it. It's something I've done all of my life, growing up in Southern California, and it's my main form of exercise. I'm good at it, but I do it primarily for health and enjoyment.
I've noticed from lurking around this board for several years that there seems to be a very self-congratulatory, cliquish tone to many threads and posts. It seems like it's often a small group of people who post relentlessly, as if they are engaged in some sort of private conversation where they're trying to outdo each other.
Maybe I'm the only one who feels that way. Maybe that's part and parcel of the world of "hardcore" competitive swimmers. Or maybe it's because there wouldn't be anything else to talk about, unless there weren't a constant focus on who's the "best" at this or that.
A race is something that happens once in a while, whereas a lifetime of swimming lasts, well, a lifetime. Yes, it's great to break a certain time in a certain race, but it's also great to have the self-discpline to keep at a daily swimming program and work on improving one's technique and endurance. Both are valid, and, to my mind, neither is more worthy of praise than the other.
Jim Thornton, if I recall correctly, noted a while ago that there were a lot of people lurking around the board and not really participating. If that is the case, I would propose that may be due to the general off-putting tone of things on here. (I won't give examples at this point, although I could.)
Now, if I went to a meet, introduced myself and was snubbed? That would be a different story and cause for stomping of feet.
Can't even imagine this happening! One reason meets are so fun is the atmosphere is one of total support and encouragement no matter the level of your swimming ability.
Mookie,
Chill pill not needed. lol. I was simply taking the opposite view in my post and pointing out the absurdities of certain statements. However, I still don't really see how it can be all that "frustrating" to wade through the competition-related threads -- you can simply avoid them. I find it pretty easy to avoid threads I'm uninterested in -- they usually have words like "distance free" or "postal swims" or "how to pace a 200 free". And if there's simply too many such threads, maybe a different forum is more up your alley?
As for the "alleged "crankiness" of certain posts, much of this either: is somewhat feigned (Geek), is pure baiting (SwimStud), is pure theater (Geek again), is intended to provoke a good debate (Paul Smith), reflects the analytical nature of the poster (Geek again), reflects the poster's absolute inability to suffer fools (Kurt Dickson), reflects the poster's love of a good old fashioned row (Geek again). Take it all with a grain of salt.
Michelle, I can give you some tips to help with that Paul Smith problem ...
Now, if I went to a meet, introduced myself and was snubbed? That would be a different story and cause for stomping of feet.
Can't even imagine this happening! One reason meets are so fun is the atmosphere is one of total support and encouragement no matter the level of your swimming ability.
Mookie,
Chill pill not needed. lol. I was simply taking the opposite view in my post and pointing out the absurdities of certain statements. However, I still don't really see how it can be all that "frustrating" to wade through the competition-related threads -- you can simply avoid them. I find it pretty easy to avoid threads I'm uninterested in -- they usually have words like "distance free" or "postal swims" or "how to pace a 200 free". And if there's simply too many such threads, maybe a different forum is more up your alley?
As for the "alleged "crankiness" of certain posts, much of this either: is somewhat feigned (Geek), is pure baiting (SwimStud), is pure theater (Geek again), is intended to provoke a good debate (Paul Smith), reflects the analytical nature of the poster (Geek again), reflects the poster's absolute inability to suffer fools (Kurt Dickson), reflects the poster's love of a good old fashioned row (Geek again). Take it all with a grain of salt.
Michelle, I can give you some tips to help with that Paul Smith problem ...