Overextension - fault or not

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In this video: www.youtube.com/watch Dave Scott talks about four common faults: head position overreaching overextension dropped elbow In this video: www.youtube.com/watch the videographer analyzes Ian Thorpe's stroke, and while I disagree with much of his analysis it is great slow motion video of Thorpe. BUT, Thorpe enters his right arm fully extended with the elbow and forearm actually entering the water just before the hand does, see attached video frames. This is exactly what Dave Scott describes as overextension. I am wondering whether it actually makes any difference how you enter the arm if you are fully extending the arm before starting the catch?
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    This is one of my favorite Thorpe videos, the guy has an unbelievably smooth and relaxed stroke. www.youtube.com/watch Well, I would argue that that is not his racing stroke, he's doing a nice relaxed demonstration of breathing. It is of course possible that the other clips are from the end of some race where he's exhausted and his technique is falling apart, but I suspect not. And yes, it is a bit hard to tell exactly when the hands enter watching the video, even in slow motion, but I watched it frame by frame and it isn't hard to see that way. Look at the images I attached to the first post, one is the frame before his hand enters, the second is the frame after. Oh, and by the way, see the guy at the very end of the second video, although I wouldn't say he has good form if you watch the way he is trying to put a lot of effort into the pull you can imagine that he is probably puffing and panting by the time he finishes a 50, a bit of what I was trying to get at in the other thread - it's like he is trying to climb a hill in a high gear by extreme application of force.
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  • Former Member
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    This is one of my favorite Thorpe videos, the guy has an unbelievably smooth and relaxed stroke. www.youtube.com/watch Well, I would argue that that is not his racing stroke, he's doing a nice relaxed demonstration of breathing. It is of course possible that the other clips are from the end of some race where he's exhausted and his technique is falling apart, but I suspect not. And yes, it is a bit hard to tell exactly when the hands enter watching the video, even in slow motion, but I watched it frame by frame and it isn't hard to see that way. Look at the images I attached to the first post, one is the frame before his hand enters, the second is the frame after. Oh, and by the way, see the guy at the very end of the second video, although I wouldn't say he has good form if you watch the way he is trying to put a lot of effort into the pull you can imagine that he is probably puffing and panting by the time he finishes a 50, a bit of what I was trying to get at in the other thread - it's like he is trying to climb a hill in a high gear by extreme application of force.
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