Actually, it was all IN at the + test on both A & B splits---and, as many of us are saying here---all the rest is nonsense!
Are you stillhere? LOL!
It's not nonsense though. The punishment that follows and the way she is viewed by her peers will depend upon the hearing. If she is found to be a Kicker V. type of case it will be a different outlook than if she is found to have purchased a product knowing exactly what it was. Either way she is guilty of doping, sure. But depending upon the information presented in the hearing she could be a victim, foolish, or an outright cheater. Obviously the last two are the most likely, but until she has the chance to present her case it's all speculation really.
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Geek, while you may be unwilling to agree to disagree on whether there is any difference between knowingly cheating and unknowingly cheating it is very clear that there is nothing to be gained from arguing with you.
Listen, I am tired of the nonsense AFTER these cheats get caught. They go to their friends and lawyers, family and all that and HIDE behind the facts. She took her web page down, she did not yell bloody murder on top of buildings that she was innocent. She never one time asked---no---demanded to take three unbiased lie detector tests, she did what ALL the other PED cheaters did and that was get a lawyer and go on to insult all of our intelligence with the denials.
As to HOW it got in her system...who cares. She swam against other clean, dedicated, hard working swimmers and cost two of them their rightful place on the US Olympic team. I think her actions AFTER getting caught are as bad as cheating in the first place.
And please spare us the toilet seat contamination or the hand shake or the her dissing the supplement company with her attorneys innuendos about them giving it to her. She did it, she needs to take responsibility and come clean. Clean with no more drug use and clean with the truth and for goodness sake-clean by stopping this charade of lies. Let us all face the facts--The little darling from Long Beach who swam for the Cal Bears is a cheater and her actions after testing + are sorry!
Finally... He admits it... :whiteflag:
You got me Anna...I give up...all my arguments and skepticism comes from a deep/dark insecurity...someone else brought this up awhile back in a PM and I was so moved by the insight I've used it as my tag line in all my posts since...but given the fact I'm married to the knife wielding, John Smith castrating, SBM can you blame me for being such a wimp?
I never said burn her! She burned herself by cheating--then again many times with her denials and lawyers innuendos.
She never has come clean---just like all the rest. Kicker's case is different in that they did not know the FULL risks of taking supplements then and they darn sure know now. That is a major reason why I don't buy her BS one bit. Also, her not having a hearing IMHO is a simple and effective way to gain MORE TIME to get their lies together and find a way to get her out from under what she did--and that was to cheat.
"Obviously the last two are the most likely, but until she has the chance to present her case it's all speculation really."
She had the chance to present her case but chose to stall to find more time to figure out how to lie her way out of this. Then, had the gall to use the nonsense that she did it for the team. Please pass me a bucket while I toss my grits on that one....
I reiterate what I said.........
So we can agree to disagee on this portion....or y'all can keep spouting your BELIEFS and I will keep spouting mine.....your choice!
The best true sporting moment I saw via catching the ESPY's was the 2 girls carrying their opponent around the bases for a HR b/c she blew her knee out on the way to first.
OMG! I saw a picture of that on espn's website - I thought it was one of the best sports stories I've ever heard. The picture said it all. I teared up a bit.
"Obviously the last two are the most likely, but until she has the chance to present her case it's all speculation really."
She had the chance to present her case but chose to stall to find more time to figure out how to lie her way out of this. Then, had the gall to use the nonsense that she did it for the team. Please pass me a bucket while I toss my grits on that one....
Rocky, you could very well be correct and the stalling is for no other reason than to prepare a load of lies. I just happen to think it's a bit extreme to pronounce these things as fact when the only real fact is, that you don't really know.
