I tried on the FS PRO today, it was very tight... even the XXL was tight, although I think the XL will work fine... but, but... it just seems like a full body paper suit... versus the FS 2 which has all the cool material, etc..
Which one is better? $450 dollars is the price here, is there a better way to order it? I'd rather wait for the LZR in the fall if that's the best I can do.
From Hofffman:
“Much of this seems incredibly judgmental. Who are you to say that an Average Joe buying a LZR has a serious problem? Maybe some Serious Joes think swimming very fast is very important.
As for fast cars - people have enjoyed them since cars existed. To these people it is not throwing away big $$$.
Are you similarly judgmental about other expensive things people spend their money on? Watches? Electronics? Shoes? Music? Art? Musical instruments?”
Reply From Dolphin 2
Yes my opinion IS judgmental – just like any economist will tell you that most Americans have a serious personal debt problem and they had better get a handle on their spending. I chose to own my home and make the mortgage payments instead of spending money on fancy cars and other expensive personal items while many others are still just renters and their net worth is -zero-.
Furthermore I find it ironically amusing how people are grousing and fuming about the high price of gas (which requires $Billions to drill for and produce) yet they will not hesitate to run out and plunk down $450 for an LZR (which is probably made in China for a few cents on the dollar). So who's the biggest price gouger -Exxon Mobil or Speedo?? :lolup:
Furthermore, the U.S. does have an obsession with sports and athletics similar to the Roman Empire and the Gladiators and too much public money is being spent on stadiums to hosting pro-sports teams. In addition, parents are aggressively prodding their children into sports at the expense of reduced academic achievement –just look at the poor test scores in reading, science, and math. In fact, many critical thinkers have proposed that the U.S. may actually undergo a socio-economic collapse just like ancient Rome and cease to be a superpower. :lolup:
Am I proposing that people paying $450 for an LZR is going to lead to the destruction of the U.S.? Obviously not. But taken in the context of the overall picture of the U.S., this fanatical approach to swimming a little bit faster than someone else gives me (and quite a few others) pause for concern about what’s going on in the psyche of the American people. :doh:
Dolphin 2
Sounds like you disapprove of anyone who spends more money than you and anyone who purchases any item you deem inappropriate. How open-minded and tolerant.
And what can possibly be wrong with wanting to go faster than someone?! That's the point of many sports. And it mimics the real word to some degree. Would you have us all be rec swimmers and noodlers? It doesn't even appear to me that folks are looking for tech suits as the only way to get faster. Most seem pretty interested in technique improvements, how to get stronger, and fine tuning their pool workouts.
My kid are doing just fine in school while simultaneously competing in sports, as I'm sure many others are. It keeps them healthy and organized and provides a social/competitive outlet. What else would they do? Hang out at the mall every day?
The $230 I spent on my FS Pro was completely within my budget.
From Hofffman:
“Much of this seems incredibly judgmental. Who are you to say that an Average Joe buying a LZR has a serious problem? Maybe some Serious Joes think swimming very fast is very important.
As for fast cars - people have enjoyed them since cars existed. To these people it is not throwing away big $$$.
Are you similarly judgmental about other expensive things people spend their money on? Watches? Electronics? Shoes? Music? Art? Musical instruments?”
Reply From Dolphin 2
Yes my opinion IS judgmental – just like any economist will tell you that most Americans have a serious personal debt problem and they had better get a handle on their spending. I chose to own my home and make the mortgage payments instead of spending money on fancy cars and other expensive personal items while many others are still just renters and their net worth is -zero-.
Furthermore I find it ironically amusing how people are grousing and fuming about the high price of gas (which requires $Billions to drill for and produce) yet they will not hesitate to run out and plunk down $450 for an LZR (which is probably made in China for a few cents on the dollar). So who's the biggest price gouger -Exxon Mobil or Speedo?? :lolup:
Furthermore, the U.S. does have an obsession with sports and athletics similar to the Roman Empire and the Gladiators and too much public money is being spent on stadiums to hosting pro-sports teams. In addition, parents are aggressively prodding their children into sports at the expense of reduced academic achievement –just look at the poor test scores in reading, science, and math. In fact, many critical thinkers have proposed that the U.S. may actually undergo a socio-economic collapse just like ancient Rome and cease to be a superpower. :lolup:
Am I proposing that people paying $450 for an LZR is going to lead to the destruction of the U.S.? Obviously not. But taken in the context of the overall picture of the U.S., this fanatical approach to swimming a little bit faster than someone else gives me (and quite a few others) pause for concern about what’s going on in the psyche of the American people. :doh:
Dolphin 2
Sounds like you disapprove of anyone who spends more money than you and anyone who purchases any item you deem inappropriate. How open-minded and tolerant.
And what can possibly be wrong with wanting to go faster than someone?! That's the point of many sports. And it mimics the real word to some degree. Would you have us all be rec swimmers and noodlers? It doesn't even appear to me that folks are looking for tech suits as the only way to get faster. Most seem pretty interested in technique improvements, how to get stronger, and fine tuning their pool workouts.
My kid are doing just fine in school while simultaneously competing in sports, as I'm sure many others are. It keeps them healthy and organized and provides a social/competitive outlet. What else would they do? Hang out at the mall every day?
The $230 I spent on my FS Pro was completely within my budget.