As of 8:10am this morning one of the finer programs in the country is lost due to "budgetary" problems.
No one saw it coming and they just recently signed some top level recruits that gave them one of the top 3 recruiting classes in the country.
Somehow ASU can afford to build a $19.5 million practice facility for basketball.
C'mon, Wells Fargo bank paid for that. Can we blame that on Title IX?
I can't speak for football, but I know for a fact that basketball scholarships have given a whole lot of kids a chance at a college education they would have never gotten were it not for basketball...
Depends on how you define education. Graduation rate at ASU for basketball players is 42%. The rate for swimming is (was) about twice that.
It's pointless to call for the NCAA to "do something". It is not a legislative body, nor is it a judicial body.
You are correct, they are much more powerful than any legislative or judicial body.
You are correct, they are much more powerful than any legislative or judicial body.
They don't have to do anything about Title IX if they just cap football budgets or make some pronouncement or requirement about equitable distribution of scholarships by sport. Isn't that within the NCAA's purview? Lots of ways to "rein in the arms race" before we start taking away women's scholarships by modifying Title IX.
I understand your point. But it sounds like you're talking high school academics, not sports or Title IX, when you're speaking of being "college bound."
The argument for Title IX was that girls were being short-changed b/c boys had more funds dedicated to them (b/c of sports) and that was infringing on girls' opportunities.
My argument is that the opposite is starting to take place: that w/ undergraduate education, young men are falling behind young women, so much so that educators across the nation are looking for solutions to this very real problem.
In other words, the gender inequalities of the 60's and 70's that brought about Title IX have a bizarre parallel in the new millenium.
Perhaps girls, now having more opportunities, are just smarter or work harder. Boys seem to need better study habits.
Yeah. That's why I specifically stated "male privilege". I work in higher education. Trust me on this: I'm acutely aware of "male privilege" and the straight-up laziness.
However. They're also lagging behind in "non-privileged" demographics: Blacks and Hispanics. This is leading many to consider the probability of social problems that affect all males across the spectrum.
With respect to the Title IX issue, boys already have their fair share of athletic scholarships.
It's not about athletic scholarships. At all.
It's about the number of athletes. Schools are being forced not just to offer the same number of sports for men and women... they have to comply w/ the same number of student-athletes! So some schools have 14 women sports and 8 mens sports! And they're still stressed about complying w/ Title IX.
They're not forced to offer the same number of scholarships to each gender. Football alone makes that impossible to achieve.
They're not getting short changed.
If a state spends... say... $2 billion on higher education, and 58% of those benefiting are women and only 42% are men... then... yes... they're getting short-changed.
Having said that, men are not as bad off when it comes to grad school. And given the over-whelming position of privilege that men enjoy in society, it's hard to feel sorry for boys that fail to get their butt in gear. I mean... I have to correct their "essays". :frustrated:
But it's extremely disconcerting when you see that it's the boys of color that are most susceptible to the pitfalls of life.
Ladies. Gentlemen.
It's pointless to call for the NCAA to "do something". It is not a legislative body, nor is it a judicial body.
The interpretation of Title IX is in the court's hands. Any restructuring of this piece of legislation needs to go through Congress, not the NCAA.
It's about the number of athletes. Schools are being forced not just to offer the same number of sports for men and women... they have to comply w/ the same number of student-athletes! So some schools have 14 women sports and 8 mens sports! And they're still stressed about complying w/ Title IX.
But it's extremely disconcerting when you see that it's the boys of color that are most susceptible to the pitfalls of life.
I agree. It's very unfortunate. Can it really be cured with having more boys in sports though? Maybe a different focus is called for.
I see no problem with having the same number of male and female student athletes.
The NCAA is a gutless organization.
A budget limit for football will never work. I can't even imagine how a number could be determined. If a school had a big stadium they have to spend more. Does a school with a big stadium just get to spend more?
A steady reduction in scholarships from 85 over time to say - 46 (two-deep offense and defense plus two kickers) would drive down many things. Schools should be allowed to divide scholarships - just like they are done for baseball, swimming and many sports. Reigning in recruiting practices (using private plans for recruiting) would help. I don't actually believe revenue would fall. I don't know how they can reign in coaching salaries - which continue to skyrocket.
The NCAA already sets scholarship limits by sport.
I agree. It's very unfortunate. Can it really be cured with having more boys in sports though? Maybe a different focus is called for.
I see no problem with having the same number of male and female student athletes.
same male/female thing skews the men b/c of the amount of athletes on the football team. not all men play football.
it would be nice if the NCAA stepped in. clearly athletic departments are struggling to make ends meet, and the umbrella organization has taken a back seat while school after school picks on the same programs.
the whole world waits 4 years to watch track, swimming, gymnastics at the summer olympics. the world cup (soccer/futbol) is ginormous. why is the NCAA not taking advantage of the popularity of these sports to showcase developing talent?
