As of 8:10am this morning one of the finer programs in the country is lost due to "budgetary" problems.
No one saw it coming and they just recently signed some top level recruits that gave them one of the top 3 recruiting classes in the country.
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It beggars belief that a program the size of ASU, with that enrollment, donor list, and gov't funding should be in the position of cutting sports.
What is needed in collegiate sports departments is complete transparency. There should be full disclosure of all finances. Every expenditure and every salary. Some will balk at this but it needs to be done. Meetings and conferences where the death penalty for sports is under consideration should take place within the public eye. There should full records of the minutes for these meetings. Tax Payers and Alumni, let alone the student athletes deserve that much. The athletic directors and other officials work for them not the other way around.
Due to the furtive nature of the decision making "process" here and it's unexpectedness one has to question the motives and competency behind this decision. Keeping financial troubles and their potential implications under wraps and then ambushing the people that rely on their judgment is poor leadership.
The Big Ten is a weak conference? Are you out your mind, girl? I think you've been listening to Geek's adulation for the SEC too much.
I think the Big 10 is a great conference - it gets the wrap of being really weak hence the "" ... I do believe that evil school in Ann Arbor beat Florida though ... hmm ....
All of this is totally nullified due to two words - Maurice Clarett.
If I'm forced to watch OSU again for the BCS championship I think I'll puke, unless they lose to the Dawgs.
Big 10 - 4 yards and a pile of dust
Seriously? You are busting out a player who played for one year in the 02 season? Wow if that's the best you got ... I loathed Clarett the moment he set foot on campus. It's just good that no SEC players have ever been arrested *cough* *cough*
I have a friend who played lineman for a legit football school down South and he described Big Ten players as speed bumps, just temporarily slow you down as you cruise over them to the end zone. Funny to see an OSU fan use Michigan to justify their conference success versus the SEC when Michigan just suffered the biggest upset in the history of D1 football.
I have a friend who played lineman for a legit football school down South and he described Big Ten players as speed bumps, just temporarily slow you down as you cruise over them to the end zone. Funny to see an OSU fan use Michigan to justify their conference success versus the SEC when Michigan just suffered the biggest upset in the history of D1 football.
Yes it sucks that I had to use Michigan as my reference but what does it say about the SEC that a D3 team can beat Michigan yet Michigan beat Florida? Hmmmm ... this year will be interesting. I don't think a team that cannot win its conference should be allowed in the Championship game ... the sucky thing with the Big Ten is that extra 2 weeks off they get ... sometimes that does bite you in the ***. Nothing seems to be changing on that front though so ... we must soldier on.
FYI - there were 4 BCS games until recently now the Rose, Orange, Sugar and Fiesta are played in addition to the Championship game which rotates between sites now not between bowls ... if that makes sense.
Yes it sucks that I had to use Michigan as my reference but what does it say about the SEC that a D3 team can beat Michigan yet Michigan beat Florida?
I'm happy to argue football with an OSU "fan", or are you a Michigan fan? Hard to really tell. I thought it was a rivalry, now I guess not so much.
And, LSU spanked OSU like the little baby it is so I guess that makes LSU better than both Mich and OSU, but maybe not better than App, which isn't D3, btw. They are D 1.
I'm sorry I must be on the wrong discussion group...I thought this thread concerned swimming. Michigan, Ohio State, ASU...when was the last time these schools ADDED a varsity sport. To cut swimming is outrageous when the facilities are already in place!
Here's a question--why not just cut the scholarships and keep the coaches and swimmers?
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Garh Hall Jr. has been saying for some time that college swimming is a dying if not already dead sport and I think he has a point...and it probably applies to most all other Olympic sports as well.
Might I propose a cutting of English and all Literature departments in leiu of athletics. Those majors put an undue burden on schools as these major never produce salaries in excess of $25K a year so no alum gifts are made and most often grads in these majors move back home with their parents.
Might I propose a cutting of English and all Literature departments in leiu of athletics. Those majors put an undue burden on schools as these major never produce salaries in excess of $25K a year so no alum gifts are made and most often grads in these majors move back home with their parents.
They might, however, learn to spell "lieu."
