Tons of fun! But, I don't know about the top 2 in the 100 free. You got Coughlin, Weir... maybe Torres?
And Jessica Hardy put herself in contention with a 54.54 swim last month. Also don't forget about Kara Lynn Joyce.
Not sure what you mean when you say Phelps might not be in our top 2 in the 400 free and 400IM. He is the WR holder for the 400 IM.
I was referring to the 400 free and the backstrokes. Phelps is the king of the 400 IM, no doubt.
Those 5 events and the 3 relays make 8 medals. The 100 back always follows the 200 free (just 1 women's event in between). The 200 back is similarly paired with the 200 IM, and also would create a session where Phelps would have to swim the 200 back final, 200 IM final, and then the 100 fly semi. The men's 400 free is amazingly still attached at the hip to the 400 IM so I don't think you'll see any men do both of those. And I'm not sure if Phelps is among our top 2 in those events (same problem with the 100 free). So I think the same program as 2007 Worlds is what we'll see.
Not sure what you mean when you say Phelps might not be in our top 2 in the 400 free and 400IM. He is the WR holder for the 400 IM.
How can we predict who is going to swim on the USA team never mind how many medals anyone is going to get???.
He may not even be selected to go, stranger things have happened.
yeah, it will be interesting to see how much lochte's butterfly kicks on breaststroke from US Nationals will help his 4IM LC time. or if he will keep them after all the hubbub that sprang up after people saw the video.
Ryan Lochte is a possibility in stealing his thunder in the 100 and 200 backs...maybe even the IM"s.
Is Piersol still in it? I haven't been keeping track of the guys lately...
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Next up and possibly more fun: what will KATIE HOFF swim? My guess:
400 IM, 4x100 free relay; 400 free; 200 free, 200 IM; 4x200 free relay; 800 free.
That's seven, so the big question is, will Katie finish in our top 2 in the 100 free at Trials? If she does, she would then be on the 4x100 medley, for a total of NINE events... with no serious schedule crunches!
Tons of fun! But, I don't know about the top 2 in the 100 free. You got Coughlin, Weir... maybe Torres?
;)
It will be a blast to watch trials.
I think this thread is about Phelps - not the suit. My point is that his medal achievements at the Olympics, whatever they turn out to be, will not happen because of the LZR. If the LZR is as good as it seems - we should see world records everywhere from many different swimmers.
It sounds like your question is really: If the suit offers the same advantage to all swimmers why do it at all? A leap in speed may occur - which for a point in time will advance world records. But once everyone has the suit equilibrium will occur and the playing field is equal once again.
My single biggest beef with high performance suits is raising the cost of swimming for age group swimmers. There is no doubt parents will be pressured to buy these suits for their young swimmers. I would like to see USA-S simply disallow their use except for national meets.
Hi Hoffam
As I’ve said previously, since anyone can put on a performance suit and gain (or not gain) an advantage, these suits are a superfluous idea and may as well be eliminated from the equation.
As for their cost, the price of just simple briefs are way too much (at least $15 here in S.F.) and it is a complete waste of money for parents to be buying even more expensive tech suits so their children can feel "more competitive".
It’s humorously ironic that people are complaining about the high cost of gas, yet they will run out and buy an expensive tech suit in the purely zealous pursuit of being the Big Dog in the pool. :blah:
Kinda reminds me of people who buy those “High Riding” SUVs (with the body jacked up 2 feet over the wheels) and then go parading around town showing off their prowess -and burning up gallons of expensive gas in the process!!! :roids:
Happy swimming
Dolphin 2
Hi Hoffam
As I’ve said previously, since anyone can put on a performance suit and gain (or not gain) an advantage, these suits are a superfluous idea and may as well be eliminated from the equation.
As for their cost, the price of just simple briefs are way too much (at least $15 here in S.F.) and it is a complete waste of money for parents to be buying even more expensive tech suits so their children can feel "more competitive".
It’s humorously ironic that people are complaining about the high cost of gas, yet they will run out and buy an expensive tech suit in the purely zealous pursuit of being the Big Dog in the pool. :blah:
Kinda reminds me of people who buy those “High Riding” SUVs (with the body jacked up 2 feet over the wheels) and then go parading around town showing off their prowess -and burning up gallons of expensive gas in the process!!! :roids:
Happy swimming
Dolphin 2
Sounds to me like someone that is against any major thing to improve performance in or out of the water.....I personally would love to see all swimmers wearing the exact same suit.....then there could be no argument as to who is fastest in any event. But at the same time, the improvements in sporting equipment is an on-going battle in any and every sport....it's part of the game.....if I can get just the slightest edge over my opponent....I'll take it as long as it is legal and approved for competition.....IMHO of course!
Don’t worry about Phelps eclipsing Mark Spitz’s record.
All Phelps has to do is wear the next generation silicone coated, polymerically engineered, body compressing, drag reducing suit from Speedo, Nike, Arena, etc., and he will become the greatest swimmer of all time.
And everyone will be OOOOOing and AWWWWing over another Dumbed-Down "achievement" thanks to technologically assisted swimming. :shakeshead:
Dolphin 2 - I agree with much of what you say about the suits. But the quote above is from you. Your statement essentially discredits what Phelps may do in Beijing because he is wearing a LZR. If he wins 6, 7, or 8 gold medals, is his performance dumbed down?
