The Fall of Auburn

tj--did you actually read this entire thread from the beginning? It started out innocently enough. My original answers to the true "questions" being raised were civil and expressed my understanding of the situation. The whole discussion "went South" when Paul posted the following in response to assertions that Marsh's move might have been a move forward: Leaving Auburn for MAC was a major step down...sorry but if you think otherwise I won't try to convince you. Auburn has some very serious issues with regards to recruiting, hazing and scholarships...I've met Dave and have a lot of respect what he accomplished as a coach...however there were/are some serious issues with the program and the timing of Quicks arrival and the departure of Marsh have never been fully disclosed....and may never be. Note that both statements are definitive. All I asked for was proof of these very accusatory statements. Where, exactly, have I "attacked" Paul? I don't see him cowering in a corner anywhere. I'm willing to call a truce and agree that Paul and I will never agree on this issue. But I'd ask Paul to put himself in my position. Say one of his best college friends' wives suddenly left a very prestigious law practice to become a stay at home mom. Would he sit back if I began to speculate that (after talking to her peers) she left her practice because she must have been doing something illegal? Would he let me post away on a public forum about all the gossip I'd heard when I can clearly not offer up anything but speculation? And incredulity that anyone with such a great career would throw it all away to wipe snotty noses all day? I don't think so. As for "proving" nothing torrid happened with regard to Marsh's departure, I believe I've actually offered up as much as one can to "prove a negative". I've offered up a whole lot more than Paul has. Google Marsh's name and "recruiting" or "hazing" and "scandal" and "swimming" and see how much "proof" of Marsh's supposedly horrendous activities you find. I challenge you.

tj--did you actually read this entire thread from the beginning? It started out innocently enough. My original answers to the true "questions" being raised were civil and expressed my understanding of the situation. The whole discussion "went South" when Paul posted the following in response to assertions that Marsh's move might have been a move forward: Leaving Auburn for MAC was a major step down...sorry but if you think otherwise I won't try to convince you. Auburn has some very serious issues with regards to recruiting, hazing and scholarships...I've met Dave and have a lot of respect what he accomplished as a coach...however there were/are some serious issues with the program and the timing of Quicks arrival and the departure of Marsh have never been fully disclosed....and may never be. Note that both statements are definitive. All I asked for was proof of these very accusatory statements. Where, exactly, have I "attacked" Paul? I don't see him cowering in a corner anywhere. I'm willing to call a truce and agree that Paul and I will never agree on this issue. But I'd ask Paul to put himself in my position. Say one of his best college friends' wives suddenly left a very prestigious law practice to become a stay at home mom. Would he sit back if I began to speculate that (after talking to her peers) she left her practice because she must have been doing something illegal? Would he let me post away on a public forum about all the gossip I'd heard when I can clearly not offer up anything but speculation? And incredulity that anyone with such a great career would throw it all away to wipe snotty noses all day? I don't think so. As for "proving" nothing torrid happened with regard to Marsh's departure, I believe I've actually offered up as much as one can to "prove a negative". I've offered up a whole lot more than Paul has. Google Marsh's name and "recruiting" or "hazing" and "scandal" and "swimming" and see how much "proof" of Marsh's supposedly horrendous activities you find. I challenge you.