Dara Torres-Amazing

So, can we just go ahead and assume you won't be backing anything you post with actual facts then? I'm done arguing with you, pointless and you change tenor hourly. At least tjburk is honest in his arguments. Geek I hate to say this you are full of Crap.

Ahhh, shades of the past are coming to light---

Dr. Wade Exum's report that 19 American medallists were allowed to compete at various Olympic Games from 1988 to 2000 despite having earlier failed drug tests shocked some people in the sporting community but was no surprise to others. "There is no commitment to stopping the drug problem," said track and field star Carl Lewis in 2000. "People know the sport is dirty, the sport is so driven by records." Little did Lewis know he would be named in Exum's report. The five-time Olympic medallist was among the athletes named in more than 30,000 pages of documents released by former U.S. Olympic Committee anti-doping chief to Sports Illustrated and several newspapers in 2003. I rest my case www.cbc.ca/.../index4.html

Dr. Wade Exum's report that 19 American medallists were allowed to compete at various Olympic Games from 1988 to 2000 despite having earlier failed drug tests shocked some people in the sporting community but was no surprise to others. "There is no commitment to stopping the drug problem," said track and field star Carl Lewis in 2000. "People know the sport is dirty, the sport is so driven by records." Little did Lewis know he would be named in Exum's report. The five-time Olympic medallist was among the athletes named in more than 30,000 pages of documents released by former U.S. Olympic Committee anti-doping chief to Sports Illustrated and several newspapers in 2003. I rest my case www.cbc.ca/.../index4.html "Exum had planned to use the documents in a lawsuit against the U.S.O.C. alleging racial discrimination and wrongful termination, but the case was dismissed in federal court last week because of lack of evidence." From an article in the NY Times....sounds like someone with an ax to grind! George......Why was this thrown out of court?

He said these things, but was never able to back up his allegations....

Another thing here George....as you have said before....accusations don't make Proof Positive....why in this case is it allowed?

The courts are always right??? OJ Innocent in one court. OJ Guilty in another court. The drug tests are perfect and always tell the truth??? We are living in Fantasie Land if we believe everything is in fact true (maybe I should say if anything is true).

Geek Promise, promise, promise. OJ, OJ, OJ, Clemens your great truth teller said he was injected. Therefore not ingested.

Um, if she did take Clenbuterol, then yes, she did commit a crime as that is not available in the US by prescription. I'm not sure it is illegal to possess this drug. Doctors just can't prescribe it. I think people can possess medications that are legal in other countries unless the drug is specifically named as illegal. BTW - this has nothing to do with wrong or right on use of this drug as a PED - it is obviously wrong. I am just not sure Hardy is a criminal. On the topic of reliable tests - I believe these tests are generally reliable at not producing false positives. I tend to believe they may fail to detect many PEDs, but they don't falsely detect them. Some of them are very clear because the markers for the substance are distinct. Others like EPO rely on levels of substances that already exist in the body (such as hematocrit). I'll say again that even if Hardy put this substance in her body unintentionally she cannot compete in the Olympics because she had a PED in her system during her races. Her win over Tara Kirk and others was not fair.

Your great truth teller was not Clemens it was the guy who said he injected Clemens. Sorry Geek I should have written it better. See you guys later going to the pool. Clemens has never admitted this, George. He said his wife was injected.