Dara Torres-Amazing

Why would it. She's been tested a ton ... I stand firmly by the fact that I think she's clean.

Somebody please warn me in advance about what NOT to put up. Carol Brady

Somebody please warn me in advance about what NOT to put up. Additional threads about tri nonsense.

Additional threads about tri nonsense. Another thing that seems to get folks wound up. I guess I don't understand why triathletes get the bum rap.

Another thing that seems to get folks wound up. I guess I don't understand why triathletes get the bum rap. Here's a summary of the past 5 years of discussion on this topic: 1 - most only want to do free sets 2 - most want to pull every set 3 - most have more gizmos and gear than an Army batallion 4 - all they talk about is how much they ran or bike the day before and why they can't swim good today 5 - they admire noodlers for their lack of physical exertion 6 - every single one will come to at least one workout a year and try out the wetsuit 7 - they wear wetsuits 8 - they wear snorkeling goggles 9 - they say strange things like "I'm not kicking to save my legs." That should sum it up. Let me know if I've left anything off.

It is very dangerous to share needles. Chuck..so are you going to defend Jessica? Still need more "evidence"?

This thread is really going to be off the wall when Dara wins the fifty at the Olympics and sets a new WR. Me thinks it is already off the wall. If she does win the 50, which won't be an easy task, then you are probably right. The discussions about Dara will become more intense than what is already been here. Anyone on the forum does have the right to challenge what someone else says and to state their opinion. I agree with Geogre that it shouldn't be done in private email, when the posts/poster I disagree with and possibly others disagree with. I don't have any personal ill will toward elise, but took a different view on some of the things she said. After all, this is a discussion forum where people not only express opinions and ask for advice but others have the right to passionately disagree with a post and poster. If you don't believe me, there are other threads with even more disagreement and passion than this one.

Me thinks it is already off the wall. If she does win the 50, which won't be an easy task, then you are probably right. The discussions about Dara will become more intense than what is already been here. Anyone on the forum does have the right to challenge what someone else says and to state their opinion. I agree with Geogre that it shouldn't be done in private email, when the posts/poster I disagree with and possibly others disagree with. I don't have any personal ill will toward elise, but took a different view on some of the things she said. After all, this is a discussion forum where people not only express opinions and ask for advice but others have the right to passionately disagree with a post and poster. If you don't believe me, there are other threads with even more disagreement and passion than this one. I agree with you, wookiee. It is better to be passionate about things in life. You, Rooster, and Sam Perry seem to share at least one thing in common and that is that you will take up for somebody if you feel they are being unfairly attacked. I respect that in all of you and wish we had more of it these days. Anybody heard how the training is going for our Olympians? Is Dara getting trained the same way as the others or are they doing something a little different with her due to her age?

Paul I will defend her if she is not guilty. It does look bad for her. I will still wait until all results are in. I still need definite proof. So far I have only heard a maybe she did. A & B sample failed....you do yourself disservice defending people like this.

Here's a summary of the past 5 years of discussion on this topic: 1 - most only want to do free sets 2 - most want to pull every set 3 - most have more gizmos and gear than an Army batallion 4 - all they talk about is how much they ran or bike the day before and why they can't swim good today 5 - they admire noodlers for their lack of physical exertion 6 - every single one will come to at least one workout a year and try out the wetsuit 7 - they wear wetsuits 8 - they wear snorkeling goggles 9 - they say strange things like "I'm not kicking to save my legs." That should sum it up. Let me know if I've left anything off. I do have to laugh because I've heard and seen those very same things. I wonder what they think about swimmers. What they think is not going to keep me from "swimming my own stroke," but it would be intesting to know how they view us USMS folks.