Dara Torres-Amazing

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Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot: If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
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    Could be an off day for a great newspaper. Or maybe the problem is that they disagree with you. I don't remember giving them permission to disagree with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Lance is great against all odds.
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    Iwannafly - I have decided to stick my head in the sand on Lance Armstrong much as tjburk has done on his hero Torres. We all have our limits as to what we can believe. I like Lance and that is my lame excuse. At least I am consistent--I question his achievements, too.
  • Ever looked at a pro cyclist? I thought they were mostly doping with EPO and blood transfusions, not steroids. Skip
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    Iwannafly - I have decided to stick my head in the sand on Lance Armstrong much as tjburk has done on his hero Torres. We all have our limits as to what we can believe. I like Lance and that is my lame excuse. And you wonder where I usually get the ammo to attack back? Please, if you're going to do it....at least do it with style and class and quit reverting to the kindergarten slams!!!
  • I thought they were mostly doping with EPO and blood transfusions, not steroids. Skip All of the above actually. Landis was the last one I recall getting nailed for testosterone; bicycling.about.com/.../drugs.htm Hamilton for blood transfusions: www.velonews.com/.../6984 Bjarne Riis took anything he could find; www.nytimes.com/.../26cycling.html And now this clown with the EPO...what a sport. But at least swimmings clean...at least according to the vast majority of posters on this forum.
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    I like him too and until I read this article (yesterday) I had absolute faith that he was clean. Now, my faith is shaken, but only slightly, because I can't seem to get over my impression that Lemond is a bit of a whiner and that he's jealous of Armstrong's achievements. The one piece of that article that made it something other than Lemond against the world, was the bit about the woman who was in Armstrong's hospital room when he supposedly admitted to using EPO. The biggest thing to jump out at me from that article was this: When I later read The Drama of the Gifted Child, one passage leaps off the page. “The repression of brutal abuse experienced during childhood drives many people to destroy their lives and the lives of others,” Miller writes. “In an unconscious thirst for revenge, they may engage in acts of violence, burning homes and businesses and physically attacking other people, using this destruction to hide the truth from themselves and avoid feeling the despair of the tormented child they once were.” Along with the lead that is still in his body, he is quite likely to go after anyone and still feel paranoid no matter what security he has around him. I say this from someone who knows a little about lead poisoning. My mom had it and it turned her into a raving lunatic for years. She got hers from simply being a weapons instructor for the L.A.County Sheriffs Dept.
  • I guess in any thread with over 1300 posts you have to expect that a few will be a bit off-topic. ;) Skip
  • I picture someone very different looking when I think of a steroid user. She is muscular, but more streamlined, and very thin. What other drug types do people suspect her of that is illegal and difficult to detect?
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    Yep, sparkling, crystal clean and pure as the driven snow!!!:applaud::applaud: