Dara Torres-Amazing

Good point. No 41 year old women would ever do something like, say, smoke cigarettes. I thought someone might try and take those comments out of context. We're talking about a conscientious athlete here, someone that measures her life by the most minute details. We're talking about Dara Torres, an incredible athlete. Caring about your sport is one thing, but how can a person spend their whole life training, being healthy, just to ignore the risks of substance abuse? As an athlete you care about your body, and your long-term health.

Maybe something good in those coffin nails. Maybe I should start smoking. Good point. No 41 year old women would ever do something like, say, smoke cigarettes.

Aren't you the one who believes everything Big Mac says. I think he would love to train you at no charge. Don't let him get behind you he may tell you it is Vitamin B. I think you would believe him like some of the congressmen. Barry Bonds thanks you for this open minded view. If you don't think a 41 year old woman, or man, would take harmful substances then you are just plain naive. Go to your local bookstore and pick up a few random copies of sports enthusiast magazines. You will be amazed by the number of adds for supplements, some which carry warnings to not take them if you are subject to doping control.

The thing I hate about accusing someone of doping is the accused has absolutely no way of proving their innocence. A lifetime of negative tests is not definitive proof that the athlete isn't doping. A lifetime of negative tests is proof-enough for me.

I doubt a 41 year old woman would risk her life by taking harmful substances. She looks that way from proper nutrition and years of hard work.

Apparently, even a blood test is not proof positive for hgh as the synthetic hormone will often appear just as the natural. What does this mean? Any athletes who have muscle mass that appears to be larger than what is normally seen for their sex and age, are now labeled as dopers by those "in the know". Of course, unless they are actually caught by a positive test, they can continue to compete and take medals away from those who might be more deserving.

I am saying that she looks juiced, her athletic achievements, particularly when viewed in the context of widespread doping in sports, are suspect, and in all likelihood we will never know for sure.

John you are clouding an issue. It is like calling a kettle black when we know it is stainless steel.

Gull, You're dead on. Testing negative only means you've weeded out certain potential scenarios of drug use. It doesn't mean a lot these days. Also, until there is blood testing at all US nationals and FINA events the results will remain less than accurate. Even with blood testing, there will be cheaters that remain a few years ahead of the game. Mr. Geochuck, Your logic is ostrich like in its approach. You would not even question the biceps on a woman like Rebecca Gusmoa until she failed her drug test. That's pathetic....... images.google.com/imgres John Smith

Gull are you saying Dara is a druggie??? Are you saying there is no way to prove she does not take steroids or hgh? I would want proof personally.