Dara Torres-Amazing

Finaly a sensible response. You did not call me a liar. George, What leads you to believe that the testing is not reliable. Sure there will always be cheats who get away with it. Otherwise nobody would cheat any more. I am not familiar with the science behind the analyses performed to test for doping, but even so, I place a fair amount of faith in it. The issue with the French Lab and Floyd Landis was that there were several errors in their procedures. That and the fact that his A sample tested clean. Some technician decided to test the B sample because they believed he was cheating. Now, not only did the tester know whose sample they were testing, even if they did produce a positive, it is no longer reproducible. The only reason for having an A and a B sample is so that a DIFFERENT lab can reproduce the positive test by testing the B sample. In addition, the French lab, the very same one that leaked supposed positive B samples from Armstrong to L'Equipe, didn't properly train their technicians, didn't have manuals for the testing equipment and didn't follow international testing protocols. I don't necessarily believe that Landis was innocent, but the lab certainly didn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was guilty. I also agree with everyone here that an elite athlete who falls under the USADA anti-doping rules, is ultimately responsible for what goes into their bodies. T.J. Morton

Finaly a sensible response. You did not call me a liar. George, What leads you to believe that the testing is not reliable. Sure there will always be cheats who get away with it. Otherwise nobody would cheat any more. I am not familiar with the science behind the analyses performed to test for doping, but even so, I place a fair amount of faith in it. The issue with the French Lab and Floyd Landis was that there were several errors in their procedures. That and the fact that his A sample tested clean. Some technician decided to test the B sample because they believed he was cheating. Now, not only did the tester know whose sample they were testing, even if they did produce a positive, it is no longer reproducible. The only reason for having an A and a B sample is so that a DIFFERENT lab can reproduce the positive test by testing the B sample. In addition, the French lab, the very same one that leaked supposed positive B samples from Armstrong to L'Equipe, didn't properly train their technicians, didn't have manuals for the testing equipment and didn't follow international testing protocols. I don't necessarily believe that Landis was innocent, but the lab certainly didn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was guilty. I also agree with everyone here that an elite athlete who falls under the USADA anti-doping rules, is ultimately responsible for what goes into their bodies. T.J. Morton