Dara Torres-Amazing

Tracy & I wannafly...although all evidence from this forum may lead you to believe the opposite...I don't live my life as a sad, angry, hateful, skeptic...I'm actually quite an optimist. the fact that you had no knowledge of failed drug tests is evidence enough you are far away from this "world". But the fact is you base your beliefs simply on your "heart"...not from daily communication with athletes and coaches close to this stuff, not from your own personal experience getting to a fairly high level of training/racing (not masters) and seeing first hand what's its like to try and make these break thru's, seeing the physiological changes of athletes around you that have cheated up close and personal...bottom line is I'm hopeful but also a realist in that I think there is far more cheating going on in swimming than people want to accept and if we want a cleaner sport we need to scrutinize anomalies such as what Dara has achieved....notice I said scrutinize. Well said, though I don't feel I have ever questioned your knowledge of the sport or how well connected you are within the community. Your comment about "your own personal experience getting to a fairly high level of training/racing" is a valid point...except that swimming in HS in the late 70's and early 80's in SoCal I saw my fair share of swimmers that were trying chemicals (other than recreational) for swimming. I always stuck with recreational!!! LOL Swam against some of the top swimmers back then and thought about going that direction.....in the long run as Robert Frost put it: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. So, on matters of knowledge from inside...I defer to you. But, I still don't see with how things evolve, how what she is doing is impossible...incredible? Yes.

Tracy & I wannafly...although all evidence from this forum may lead you to believe the opposite...I don't live my life as a sad, angry, hateful, skeptic...I'm actually quite an optimist. the fact that you had no knowledge of failed drug tests is evidence enough you are far away from this "world". But the fact is you base your beliefs simply on your "heart"...not from daily communication with athletes and coaches close to this stuff, not from your own personal experience getting to a fairly high level of training/racing (not masters) and seeing first hand what's its like to try and make these break thru's, seeing the physiological changes of athletes around you that have cheated up close and personal...bottom line is I'm hopeful but also a realist in that I think there is far more cheating going on in swimming than people want to accept and if we want a cleaner sport we need to scrutinize anomalies such as what Dara has achieved....notice I said scrutinize. Well said, though I don't feel I have ever questioned your knowledge of the sport or how well connected you are within the community. Your comment about "your own personal experience getting to a fairly high level of training/racing" is a valid point...except that swimming in HS in the late 70's and early 80's in SoCal I saw my fair share of swimmers that were trying chemicals (other than recreational) for swimming. I always stuck with recreational!!! LOL Swam against some of the top swimmers back then and thought about going that direction.....in the long run as Robert Frost put it: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. So, on matters of knowledge from inside...I defer to you. But, I still don't see with how things evolve, how what she is doing is impossible...incredible? Yes.