Dara Torres-Amazing

Tracy, this will be my last post on this subject...and you quote above is the perfect time for me to exit. You've twisted a hell of a lot that some of us have tried to discuss here...in subtle ways that remind me of my radical friends on the right and left of the political spectrum...always avoiding the specific's of what is being questioned and immediately going to the easy route of accusing us who question as attacking...pretty sad. Bonds case and your support of the fact that he was never proven to be guilty in spite of the fact he did admit to using the clear and the cream (sports.espn.go.com/.../story, the incredible physiological changes he went thru and the simple fact that you believe with all your heart as George does that will a little bit of stretching, the latest fad training regime, and $100k a year in over the counter supplements anyone over 40 can achieve the level of success Dara has...I remind you the success comes after 7 years off and from somebody who'd times were at the elite end of the spectrum as far as human performance for swimming...not a masters swimmer trying to dial in some better technique are all wonderful in the realm of hero worship...but sadly "blind" in the real world we live in. Wonderful things are done in sports everyday...break thru's occur occasinally, you choose to accept blindly this is one of them and attack those of us who are tired of seeing cheating going on at every level of sport. I hope Dara never tests negative, I hope we have witnessed a profound breakthrough in sports...but I refuse to be intimidated out of questioning feats such as this by anyone and sorry Jim but I/we who love the sport we put so much time in won't "give it a break" because the real world needs people who don't blindly worship others and are willing to ask hard questions. By the way regarding McGuire, Andro was illegal per the DEA but not by MLB...nice eh? oh I guess breaking a federal law doesn't matter as long as baseball doesn't care! Paul, I would challenge you to go back and find a place where I "accused" people without first being labeled in one way or the other! If countering someone's point of view with what I "believe" to be true is accusing....then sure enough I am guilty. I would honestly apologize to anyone that I offended by trying to prove my point....never my intention. But to sit by when people make snide remarks to make their points never has been my habit. I actually thought this was a pretty reasonable discussion about the subject........

Tracy, this will be my last post on this subject...and you quote above is the perfect time for me to exit. You've twisted a hell of a lot that some of us have tried to discuss here...in subtle ways that remind me of my radical friends on the right and left of the political spectrum...always avoiding the specific's of what is being questioned and immediately going to the easy route of accusing us who question as attacking...pretty sad. Bonds case and your support of the fact that he was never proven to be guilty in spite of the fact he did admit to using the clear and the cream (sports.espn.go.com/.../story, the incredible physiological changes he went thru and the simple fact that you believe with all your heart as George does that will a little bit of stretching, the latest fad training regime, and $100k a year in over the counter supplements anyone over 40 can achieve the level of success Dara has...I remind you the success comes after 7 years off and from somebody who'd times were at the elite end of the spectrum as far as human performance for swimming...not a masters swimmer trying to dial in some better technique are all wonderful in the realm of hero worship...but sadly "blind" in the real world we live in. Wonderful things are done in sports everyday...break thru's occur occasinally, you choose to accept blindly this is one of them and attack those of us who are tired of seeing cheating going on at every level of sport. I hope Dara never tests negative, I hope we have witnessed a profound breakthrough in sports...but I refuse to be intimidated out of questioning feats such as this by anyone and sorry Jim but I/we who love the sport we put so much time in won't "give it a break" because the real world needs people who don't blindly worship others and are willing to ask hard questions. By the way regarding McGuire, Andro was illegal per the DEA but not by MLB...nice eh? oh I guess breaking a federal law doesn't matter as long as baseball doesn't care! Paul, I would challenge you to go back and find a place where I "accused" people without first being labeled in one way or the other! If countering someone's point of view with what I "believe" to be true is accusing....then sure enough I am guilty. I would honestly apologize to anyone that I offended by trying to prove my point....never my intention. But to sit by when people make snide remarks to make their points never has been my habit. I actually thought this was a pretty reasonable discussion about the subject........