Does anyone else suffer from oxygen debt after tumble turn?
Former Member
This is not the least of my worries in swimming, but I tend to fall into oxygen debt after tumble turns. In fact, when I keep doing tumble turns in lap swims, it is less taxing to swim 50 LCM than 25 SCY, because I have more time in 50 LCM to recover from the oxygen debt, whereas in 25 SCY, I have to do another tumble turn and fall, yet again, into oxygen debt, before fully recovering from the previous bout.
Do other master swimmers out there suffer from a similar problem? How do you over come this?
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Firstly, I have not yet come to the knowledge that "oxygen debt" is what causes "air hunger", I think it might be "carbon dioxide excess". But this has been discussed before and I am always glad when the subject pops up again. When you flip, you hold your breath. It is this that is causing your troubles, not the swimming during the turn. So, if you are not consumming oxygen what is happening? By holding your breath (diminishing the intake of oxygen, yes I know) you are not eliminating the C02 that has built up in your lungs as a consequence of acidosis that is a consequence of fatigue. This C02 buildup is the most powerful cause of your wanting to come up for air. The C02 system if far faster to react then the 02 system. So, unless I can find some darn place in the internet that will finally answer my doubts, I stick to the theory that what causes your hunger for air is the excess carbon dioxide buildup in your lungs. That is what happens in snorkeling and in trying to beat the world record of breath holding or swimming underwater longest and so forth. billy fanstone
P.S. Hunger for air is a phrase that means you feel you need air, but what you need is to have some exchange going on in your lungs, thus getting rid of the excess carbon dioxide (renovating the alveolii air), plus you get oxygen during this exchange, but mainly you need air to remove the C02, which then permits the blood to liberate C02 into the alveolii, thus diminshing the partial pressure of C02 in the blood (which is the trigger for breathing).
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Former Member
Firstly, I have not yet come to the knowledge that "oxygen debt" is what causes "air hunger", I think it might be "carbon dioxide excess". But this has been discussed before and I am always glad when the subject pops up again. When you flip, you hold your breath. It is this that is causing your troubles, not the swimming during the turn. So, if you are not consumming oxygen what is happening? By holding your breath (diminishing the intake of oxygen, yes I know) you are not eliminating the C02 that has built up in your lungs as a consequence of acidosis that is a consequence of fatigue. This C02 buildup is the most powerful cause of your wanting to come up for air. The C02 system if far faster to react then the 02 system. So, unless I can find some darn place in the internet that will finally answer my doubts, I stick to the theory that what causes your hunger for air is the excess carbon dioxide buildup in your lungs. That is what happens in snorkeling and in trying to beat the world record of breath holding or swimming underwater longest and so forth. billy fanstone
P.S. Hunger for air is a phrase that means you feel you need air, but what you need is to have some exchange going on in your lungs, thus getting rid of the excess carbon dioxide (renovating the alveolii air), plus you get oxygen during this exchange, but mainly you need air to remove the C02, which then permits the blood to liberate C02 into the alveolii, thus diminshing the partial pressure of C02 in the blood (which is the trigger for breathing).
