Hey everyone,
I have a problem...I don't train very vigrously or religiously when theres no meets in site...so....because there are so few masters meets around me, I am also re-joining US swimming. ((is that allowed? To swim both?))
I was wondering though...how does one get a hold of registration forms for those meets does anyone know? I will be swimming unattached...but I was messing around on the metroswimming website and couldn't find anywhere that had registration forms for meets that I could print and sign up...
I suppose this would be better asked on a US forum, but I couldn't find that either:o
if anyone could direct me in the right direction that'd be great!
What would be gained by a Dual Sanction?Skip it is all about the USMS mission and objectives.
To promote fitness and health in adults by offering and supporting Masters swimming programs…
To offer adults the opportunity to participate in a lifelong fitness and/or competitive swimming program…
While it is possible for USMS members to also join USA Swimming, and many of us do, it is not possible for all USA Swimmers to join USMS.
Skip, the issue of different rules between USMS and USA-S has been addressed within USMS. According to current USMS rules, for dual sanctioned events, USA-S rules and administrative regulations apply. So there is no need to make special accommodations for “Masters Rules” within USA-S. USA Swimming only needs to make a one line rule change to allow dual sanctioning.
And there, in my opinion, are benefits for dual sanctioning to both organizations. First USMS historically has been more active in organizing and conducting open water events, dual sanctioning allows for USA-S to take advantage of our experience both from the administrative side and the competitor’s side. Not allowing the kids to participate is a disservice to them and shuts down a revenue source for meet hosts.
Second, there are a number of USMS swimmers in areas that do not conduct many meets. By allowing dual sanctioned events it provides an opportunity for these underserved members to participate. And yes they can join USA-S and provided there is a senior division (not just 15-17) they could compete against the senior age groupers, however a number of our members are uncomfortable competing with these kids. And how fair is it for a 70 year old to compete against a 19 year old?
Third, dual sanctioning is not a requirement, it would be optional. I would doubt, in fact I would discourage, pool zone meets or higher from being dual sanctioned. Most zone meets have a tough enough time meeting session guidelines. However as far as “this would never ever happen any kind of USA Swimming meet” tell these folks to open their eyes, it has happened and it continues to happen today. People who want to make it work, make it work; people who don’t, won’t.
Finally, this is about providing opportunities to swimmers. Dual sanctioning provides opportunities to compete to USMS members and USA Swimming members.
What would be gained by a Dual Sanction?Skip it is all about the USMS mission and objectives.
To promote fitness and health in adults by offering and supporting Masters swimming programs…
To offer adults the opportunity to participate in a lifelong fitness and/or competitive swimming program…
While it is possible for USMS members to also join USA Swimming, and many of us do, it is not possible for all USA Swimmers to join USMS.
Skip, the issue of different rules between USMS and USA-S has been addressed within USMS. According to current USMS rules, for dual sanctioned events, USA-S rules and administrative regulations apply. So there is no need to make special accommodations for “Masters Rules” within USA-S. USA Swimming only needs to make a one line rule change to allow dual sanctioning.
And there, in my opinion, are benefits for dual sanctioning to both organizations. First USMS historically has been more active in organizing and conducting open water events, dual sanctioning allows for USA-S to take advantage of our experience both from the administrative side and the competitor’s side. Not allowing the kids to participate is a disservice to them and shuts down a revenue source for meet hosts.
Second, there are a number of USMS swimmers in areas that do not conduct many meets. By allowing dual sanctioned events it provides an opportunity for these underserved members to participate. And yes they can join USA-S and provided there is a senior division (not just 15-17) they could compete against the senior age groupers, however a number of our members are uncomfortable competing with these kids. And how fair is it for a 70 year old to compete against a 19 year old?
Third, dual sanctioning is not a requirement, it would be optional. I would doubt, in fact I would discourage, pool zone meets or higher from being dual sanctioned. Most zone meets have a tough enough time meeting session guidelines. However as far as “this would never ever happen any kind of USA Swimming meet” tell these folks to open their eyes, it has happened and it continues to happen today. People who want to make it work, make it work; people who don’t, won’t.
Finally, this is about providing opportunities to swimmers. Dual sanctioning provides opportunities to compete to USMS members and USA Swimming members.
