Questions about US swimming

I have been reading this discussion and talking to USA Swimming Administration people and I have come up with a conclusion question about this topic. What would be gained by a Dual Sanction? It seems to me that right now its in the best interests of both organizations to have swimmers register and become members of the orgainization which they want to represent. That is defined in both organizations rule book and I can't see why either one would want to change that. I am all for swimmers joining both organizations and swimming in competitions that meet there schedules and goals. The way its done now if you swim in a USA Swimming meet and meet the critera for times in meets, you can swim in them and turn them in for Top Ten. Many swimmers do this and its seems to work out ok. If a USA swimmer wants to join USMS, they can if they meet the age requirement of 18. They can compete and swim and I believe they can turn in there times for USA swimmming toward Top Ten and Records. This is what Nick Brunnelli did last when in a USMS meet he set an American Record in the SCM 50 Free. It would seem to me that both organizations would have to make major rule changes and revisons in there rules to accomodate dual sanctioning. That observation is by reading Article 202 and 203 of the 2007 USA Rule Book. Right now I don't believe we have a lot of swimmers in both competiting and belonging as members in both organizations. I feel to be fair that a swimmer who wants to compete and swim in both organizations should belong to both organizations. Right now, it seems to me that there are more USMS masters swimmers that swim in USA meets as opposed to USA swimmers swimming in Masters meets. Dual sanctioning sounds like a great idea but when you look at differences in the meets, rules, and eligibility qualifing time standards its quite different for both organizations. I notice that the Coach and Club/Team in USA swimming has to take more responsibilty and control of the swimming member than what USMS implies in there rule book for there members. This responsibility is that the swimmer must enter with his Club/Team and the Club/Team has responsibility over the swimmer where in USMS its the swimmer that has responsibility over the swimmer. I was telling some people at USA Swimming how we enter meets and USMS Nationals and how we as inidividual swimmers can go online and register. I was told that this would never ever happen in any kind of USA Swimming Meet especially with a Zone Meet or higher. You have to enter everything by Team/Club/Coach and in certain electonic formats that USMS does not require. This is just one area and I sure there are countless others about the differences in both organizations. The bottom line is that right now you can compete for both organizations as members of those organizations and everything will work as long as you follow the rules and critera of both organizations.

I have been reading this discussion and talking to USA Swimming Administration people and I have come up with a conclusion question about this topic. What would be gained by a Dual Sanction? It seems to me that right now its in the best interests of both organizations to have swimmers register and become members of the orgainization which they want to represent. That is defined in both organizations rule book and I can't see why either one would want to change that. I am all for swimmers joining both organizations and swimming in competitions that meet there schedules and goals. The way its done now if you swim in a USA Swimming meet and meet the critera for times in meets, you can swim in them and turn them in for Top Ten. Many swimmers do this and its seems to work out ok. If a USA swimmer wants to join USMS, they can if they meet the age requirement of 18. They can compete and swim and I believe they can turn in there times for USA swimmming toward Top Ten and Records. This is what Nick Brunnelli did last when in a USMS meet he set an American Record in the SCM 50 Free. It would seem to me that both organizations would have to make major rule changes and revisons in there rules to accomodate dual sanctioning. That observation is by reading Article 202 and 203 of the 2007 USA Rule Book. Right now I don't believe we have a lot of swimmers in both competiting and belonging as members in both organizations. I feel to be fair that a swimmer who wants to compete and swim in both organizations should belong to both organizations. Right now, it seems to me that there are more USMS masters swimmers that swim in USA meets as opposed to USA swimmers swimming in Masters meets. Dual sanctioning sounds like a great idea but when you look at differences in the meets, rules, and eligibility qualifing time standards its quite different for both organizations. I notice that the Coach and Club/Team in USA swimming has to take more responsibilty and control of the swimming member than what USMS implies in there rule book for there members. This responsibility is that the swimmer must enter with his Club/Team and the Club/Team has responsibility over the swimmer where in USMS its the swimmer that has responsibility over the swimmer. I was telling some people at USA Swimming how we enter meets and USMS Nationals and how we as inidividual swimmers can go online and register. I was told that this would never ever happen in any kind of USA Swimming Meet especially with a Zone Meet or higher. You have to enter everything by Team/Club/Coach and in certain electonic formats that USMS does not require. This is just one area and I sure there are countless others about the differences in both organizations. The bottom line is that right now you can compete for both organizations as members of those organizations and everything will work as long as you follow the rules and critera of both organizations.