I'm just learning these formally (I taught myself a few years ago) and consequently suck at the pullout. I always mess up the timing and I"m almost always too deep, especially from a dive. So two questions:
1) Any tips for reading depth? Breaking out to early, or feet brushing the surface are my biggest problems.
2) In a race, is it better to risk a pullout and possible DQ, or just do a streamline off the walls? I feel like I can go almost as far on a good streamline as a pullout, and streamline don't usually have messy outcomes.
Thanks!!!!
Practice, practice! I don't use a board when I kick ***, so off every wall when kicking is another opportunity to work on the pullout. Do a search through these forums for the thread about the 50 *** article. I think Allen and Wayne both had some really good tips about the pullout, depth, time under, etc.
Good luck!
Carrie
I'm just learning these formally (I taught myself a few years ago) and consequently suck at the pullout. I always mess up the timing and I"m almost always too deep, especially from a dive. So two questions:
1) Any tips for reading depth? Breaking out to early, or feet brushing the surface are my biggest problems.
2) In a race, is it better to risk a pullout and possible DQ, or just do a streamline off the walls? I feel like I can go almost as far on a good streamline as a pullout, and streamline don't usually have messy outcomes.
Thanks!!!!
1 - if you push off deep and push off angled downward, you'll eliminate the early breakout and feet brushing surface thing. the more you practice that, the better you'll get at figuring out how deep you are, etc.
2 - you get to pull your arms all the way to your waist in a pullout. way faster than the hearts you have to make the rest of the way. I say do the pullout every lap! practice it a lot!
You don't have to pullout with the dolphin pull and kick. At lest that's how I read it. I've messed up a BR200 and not done the SDK or pull before...just come up off the glide stroking.
I try for "glide-onethousand, 2-onethousand, 3-onethousand, start pull and SDK-onethousand, arms to streamline, kick (fingers point up to lift) pull and break surface.
I may not be the best...but it's a routine.
NO SDKING in ***, one dolphin kick with the pull is okay, but nothing more!! Careful not to get a DQ!
In a race, is it better to risk a pullout and possible DQ, or just do a streamline off the walls?
Kyra, you want to do a pullout whenever possible, but if this is not working for you the whole idea is to avoid the turbulence created at the end of the pool by going under the water. Your best bet is to practice at race speed starting around the flags and until the pullout to get an idea of your angle, depth and feel for the pullout.
Now that I'm older, fatter, slower (and wiser - ha ha) I can't do a pullout unless the race is 50-100 yards. In the 200 IM, I am too winded. Ultimately I want to do a great pullout for each turn, but I don't let it prevent me from swimming a race.
Practice, practice and more practice! :banana:
1) Any tips for reading depth? Breaking out to early, or feet brushing the surface are my biggest problems.
I don't think there's any substitute for just doing it over and over again.
I'm just learning these formally (I taught myself a few years ago) and consequently suck at the pullout. I always mess up the timing and I"m almost always too deep, especially from a dive. So two questions:
1) Any tips for reading depth? Breaking out to early, or feet brushing the surface are my biggest problems.
2) In a race, is it better to risk a pullout and possible DQ, or just do a streamline off the walls? I feel like I can go almost as far on a good streamline as a pullout, and streamline don't usually have messy outcomes.
Thanks!!!!
You don't have to pullout with the dolphin pull and kick. At lest that's how I read it. I've messed up a BR200 and not done the SDK or pull before...just come up off the glide stroking.
I try for "glide-onethousand, 2-onethousand, 3-onethousand, start pull and SDK-onethousand, arms to streamline, kick (fingers point up to lift) pull and break surface.
I may not be the best...but it's a routine.
I don't think there's any substitute for just doing it over and over again.
I was afraid of that. It's just so boring!
Another thing I thought off too, when I do get a good pull, I can glide way farther than I can hold my breath. Any ideas for lung exercises too would be awesome.
You want to stop the glide and begin your pullout when your speed slows. In other words, don't allow your underwater speed to drop below that of your stroking speed on the surface. I don't swim much *** but every length I swim gets a proper pullout...or at least an attempt at proper. Practice makes perfect.
Just from watching good *** racers it seems that the pullout can really make or break a race. If you are racing somebody who has no real pullout, just a dive and glide, your pullout is going to give you a marked advantage.
. Any ideas for lung exercises too would be awesome.
I do 4 x 25 underwater. Don't fully recover...it's just a mental thing of controlling that breathe reflex a little while.
I'm going to use this thread to ask another question about the pullout. I'm not a very good breaststroker although I am trying to improve. I notice that as I am recovering my arms and just before I kick I seem to slow way down, almost to a stop, then I kick and squirt away again. It's almost like the movement of my hands and arms as they go beneath my chest is causing this. My legs are still in streamline when I see this, just before I start the kick cycle. How can I eliminate this slowdown?