Wondering about USS coaching. If a swimmer is on a particular team, is it permissible or desirable for them to get private coaching/lessons elsewhere or attend clinics in addition to attending all team practices? Heard of a couple coaches recently who went ballistic when their swimmers took private lessons from another coach not affiliated with their team (not affiliated with any other team either, just a private coach). Is this not politically correct for USS swimmers?
Fortress, do your kids swim for the mason mokas?
These are all great thoughts guys. Thanks so much.
Warren:
No, another team. I know lots of kids on the Makos though, including my coaches' kids.
Everyone:
I haven't done this yet, and I love my kids' coaches. They're really fabulous. My worry is more what Doug was pointing out. I don't hover at practice, but I have seen some practices (a few times I'm swimming in a lap lane) and I have spoken at length to all the coaches on the team over time. So I know they focus on drills and technique as much as any USS team. But the programs are quite large here and it's hard to get a lot of individualized attention. And my main swimming kid is so outgoing that she's always hammering her coaches with questions about how to improve her technique. Which at least is a bit better than the naturally quieter kids that sit silently by or remain confused.
I am considering sending her to a swim camp, and I have solicited input, some of which I posted on post #2 of the swim camp thread. Doug, I'd love to hear where you send your kids, if you want to PM me. I don't think her coaches would object to a camp. But I imagine it would depend on the timing. If it's sort of between seasons and does not unduly interfere with training, I don't think, or at least hope, they would mind. Seems a little severe. I would certainly discuss it with them.
I think Michelle's point is valid. I think kids can get conflicting advice. I am curious about this topic because I have heard a lot of gossip lately about coaches being pissed about their swimmers receiving other coaching. It's the conflicting advice issue (e.g., how far is the outsweep on breaststroke?), but I agree with Warren that it may be a bit proprietary too. Obviously, if they are getting coached by someone from a rival team, that's a big no no. But that wasn't the case in the stories I heard. And the coach had excellent credentials.
But I do have to wonder. It seems like apart from the team practices a little individual attention wouldn't hurt. When my main swimming kid just swam summer league in the summer not LC, she always had private lessons. Now, it was with the coaches of her summer league team. But she needed the additional stroke assistance. Especially as a young kid.
I've spoken to former college swimmers about this issue, and they seemed to go to camps and have individual instruction.
Tom:
There is nothing in my nose. I have no sinus infection at the moment. I am going to take Peter Cruise's advice and abandon allergy shots for awhile. I think they're ruining my eyes. Or maybe Doug is right and it's the bromine.
On that score, when I missed practices for 6 weeks because of shoulder and sinus infection issues, when I went back my coach said, "Have you been swimming with another team?" Jeez. No, just at the county rec center on my own where I could doing vessel shaping .... School year thing.
Fortress, do your kids swim for the mason mokas?
These are all great thoughts guys. Thanks so much.
Warren:
No, another team. I know lots of kids on the Makos though, including my coaches' kids.
Everyone:
I haven't done this yet, and I love my kids' coaches. They're really fabulous. My worry is more what Doug was pointing out. I don't hover at practice, but I have seen some practices (a few times I'm swimming in a lap lane) and I have spoken at length to all the coaches on the team over time. So I know they focus on drills and technique as much as any USS team. But the programs are quite large here and it's hard to get a lot of individualized attention. And my main swimming kid is so outgoing that she's always hammering her coaches with questions about how to improve her technique. Which at least is a bit better than the naturally quieter kids that sit silently by or remain confused.
I am considering sending her to a swim camp, and I have solicited input, some of which I posted on post #2 of the swim camp thread. Doug, I'd love to hear where you send your kids, if you want to PM me. I don't think her coaches would object to a camp. But I imagine it would depend on the timing. If it's sort of between seasons and does not unduly interfere with training, I don't think, or at least hope, they would mind. Seems a little severe. I would certainly discuss it with them.
I think Michelle's point is valid. I think kids can get conflicting advice. I am curious about this topic because I have heard a lot of gossip lately about coaches being pissed about their swimmers receiving other coaching. It's the conflicting advice issue (e.g., how far is the outsweep on breaststroke?), but I agree with Warren that it may be a bit proprietary too. Obviously, if they are getting coached by someone from a rival team, that's a big no no. But that wasn't the case in the stories I heard. And the coach had excellent credentials.
But I do have to wonder. It seems like apart from the team practices a little individual attention wouldn't hurt. When my main swimming kid just swam summer league in the summer not LC, she always had private lessons. Now, it was with the coaches of her summer league team. But she needed the additional stroke assistance. Especially as a young kid.
I've spoken to former college swimmers about this issue, and they seemed to go to camps and have individual instruction.
Tom:
There is nothing in my nose. I have no sinus infection at the moment. I am going to take Peter Cruise's advice and abandon allergy shots for awhile. I think they're ruining my eyes. Or maybe Doug is right and it's the bromine.
On that score, when I missed practices for 6 weeks because of shoulder and sinus infection issues, when I went back my coach said, "Have you been swimming with another team?" Jeez. No, just at the county rec center on my own where I could doing vessel shaping .... School year thing.