Hi usms swim friends,
I'm working on a new swim faster faster article and I wanted to gather a little data first
here's my questions:
In your 2 or 3 best events
what are your lifetime best times?
how old were you when you swam them?
what year was that?
what are your best times in those events for each masters age group you've been in?
here's an example of what I'm looking for
Ande Rasmussen
50 scy free
1985 22 20.4
(25 - 29) 1991 28 20.5
(30 - 34) 1995 33 20.9
(35 - 39) can't find a time
(40 - 44) 2004 40 22.44
thanks in advance to for participating in this
I look forward to reading your replies
Ande
PS feel free to email them to me if you don't want to post them here
AndeRasmussen@aol.com
No. It's going to take more than a couple examples to convince me that the back-*** super combo is not an anomoly. Even Jeff describes it as an "oddity." I'm sure you have more examples in that encyclopediac brain. :bow: I guess there's Tracey Caulkins off the top of my head. And I'm sure there are some elite IMers that are proficient at both like Katie Hoff. But, apart from the super elite, on this forum and in my own more limited swimming experience and observations, back and breaststroke just typically don't go together. (I know the Raz can do quadrathlons.) That's one reason we have a lot of breaststroke haters and backstroke haters on the forum. (Sorry, Allen, I know you don't like that "hate" word. I use it loosely.)
I'm probably showing what a dork I am, but this one got me interested, so like Kevin (Speedo Racer) did with the swim magazine covers, I did with the records for Back and *** by the same swimmer. During the NFL football games yeserday, I got out the old USMS Rule Books where they have all of the records, and did some research...yes, I'm one of the weirdos who happens to keep them. From 1990 when they listed the Nationals Records there appears to be 20 swimmers who have had National Records in backstroke and breastroke. This does not include swimmers like Jeff Cummings who have won these events at Nationals & World Championships and does not include swimmers who have ranked Number #1 in both of these events, like Jeff, Phil Whitten, and Nadine Day. The list is just USMS recordholders and this list only goes back to 1990 and does not cover people from 1989 on back.
Besides the three I mentioned, these are other swimmers I found that had USMS records in both strokes.
Clara Walker, Jewel Cooke, Ella Peckham, Wally Spence, Tom Lane, Maxine Merlino, Regan Kenner, Sergey Mariniuk, Jim Penfield, Gus Langer, Lavell Stoinoff, Dan Dotterweich, Gail Roper, Mark Chatfield, Aldo Da Rosa, Sarabeth Schweitzer, and Thomas Cureton.
So from this list I would say its not quite the oddity in USMS as one would expect. I am sure this list would be bigger if you took all of the USMS National Meet Champions and the USMS Swimmers ranked #1 in these events in the National Top Ten.
No. It's going to take more than a couple examples to convince me that the back-*** super combo is not an anomoly. Even Jeff describes it as an "oddity." I'm sure you have more examples in that encyclopediac brain. :bow: I guess there's Tracey Caulkins off the top of my head. And I'm sure there are some elite IMers that are proficient at both like Katie Hoff. But, apart from the super elite, on this forum and in my own more limited swimming experience and observations, back and breaststroke just typically don't go together. (I know the Raz can do quadrathlons.) That's one reason we have a lot of breaststroke haters and backstroke haters on the forum. (Sorry, Allen, I know you don't like that "hate" word. I use it loosely.)
I'm probably showing what a dork I am, but this one got me interested, so like Kevin (Speedo Racer) did with the swim magazine covers, I did with the records for Back and *** by the same swimmer. During the NFL football games yeserday, I got out the old USMS Rule Books where they have all of the records, and did some research...yes, I'm one of the weirdos who happens to keep them. From 1990 when they listed the Nationals Records there appears to be 20 swimmers who have had National Records in backstroke and breastroke. This does not include swimmers like Jeff Cummings who have won these events at Nationals & World Championships and does not include swimmers who have ranked Number #1 in both of these events, like Jeff, Phil Whitten, and Nadine Day. The list is just USMS recordholders and this list only goes back to 1990 and does not cover people from 1989 on back.
Besides the three I mentioned, these are other swimmers I found that had USMS records in both strokes.
Clara Walker, Jewel Cooke, Ella Peckham, Wally Spence, Tom Lane, Maxine Merlino, Regan Kenner, Sergey Mariniuk, Jim Penfield, Gus Langer, Lavell Stoinoff, Dan Dotterweich, Gail Roper, Mark Chatfield, Aldo Da Rosa, Sarabeth Schweitzer, and Thomas Cureton.
So from this list I would say its not quite the oddity in USMS as one would expect. I am sure this list would be bigger if you took all of the USMS National Meet Champions and the USMS Swimmers ranked #1 in these events in the National Top Ten.
