Anyone else watch The Biggest Loser?

Putting aside the gene pool, two of my grandparents lived to be over 100 and they lived on a small farm. The other two lived in the city and passed on in their 70s. I don't have stress anymore after moving here. My biggest stress is where to swim on a given day. Donna Well, you're gonna outlive me then because I'm pretty stressed out living here in urban suburbia with traffic and three busy kids. And the upcoming holidays are not helping out in the stress department. I had a grandmother who lived to 106. Had her own apartment until cataracs forced her into a nursing home. She walked everywhere, was always chatting with friends, ate seeds and fruit and forced that stuff on me when I visited as a youngin.

I read this article today about internal and external fat...very interesting www.telegraph.co.uk/.../main.jhtml;jsessionid=VHHBGIYC3HCU1QFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0 Ok, I actually read that. First, I'm glad to know that gluttony was not the invention of Christianity. One less thing for it to claim. "Tofi?" (thin outside, fat inside) That is the strangest word ever. They actually use that word in the UK and not Hollywood? Geek must comment on this, but we seem to have lost him... I also don't like BMI and agree that it's a "crude" measure. You can have someone who's relatively lean but muscular, i.e. mesomorphic, and they test high for BMI. Bunch of BS. Why if BMI were the real measure, half the world could be prescribed diet pills. I think it is interesting, and Islandsox would find it so, that they said that you could be large and physically active and in a perfectly healthly state. Long live Islandsox!

I have 3 of 4 grandparents still alive. All are well into their 80s. Two (my mom's parents) have had heart surgery, but that was years and years ago, and honestly not really a big deal. Grandpa H has diabetes but otherwise is in great health. He told me Howland's don't get old they just wrinkle. He still volunteers at the hospital and goes ballroom dancing with his wife 3 x/week. About 10 years ago when he was a mere 77 he kicked my butt on the dance floor at my cousin's wedding. I have great genetics, but do as much as I can to help them along ... Did you all hear about the 97? year old that died in a shoot out with police in Florida I think? That's how I want to go ... at 97 in a shootout with police (with no one besides me getting hurt)

I think it was Cornell University that is doing the experiment with some monkeys but there was an article about it in the NYTimes a few weeks ago. So we're back to Darwinism and its applicability? Or is that just apes? Are you restricting your calories, SCY? Or sticking with the "everything in moderation" theory?

Putting aside the gene pool, two of my grandparents lived to be over 100 and they lived on a small farm. The other two lived in the city and passed on in their 70s. The difference I saw was this: the farming grandparents grew all of their own food (cattle, lamb, chickens), and vegetables. They were self-sufficient; had no telephone, no TV, etc. They fried most of their food or roasted it. Used fresh butter, cream. Laundry was done on scrub board, etc. The biggest "stress" level was whether dinner would be an hour late. Their kids took the bus to school or walked (not safe now, of course). The city grandparents had more conveniences; they bought all of their food, had a car, phone, etc. They were always busy running around trying to get things done: tags for the car, paying electric bill, standing in line at the bank, taking their kids back and forth to school, and participating in more activities than they had time for. When pizza and hamburgers came into play, their eating changed due to convenience. Faster became a way of life. They left good, sensible eating as a thing of the past due to time constraints. The farming grandparents were not obese and both passed in their sleep. The city grandparents both had serious heart problems which took them. I don't have stress anymore after moving here. My biggest stress is where to swim on a given day. And I love steak, just can't get it here very often. I have a hard time buying into some foods being taboo because an expert goes on TV to tell us so (remember in the late 80s, the high carb foods were endorsed by doctors and then they changed their minds when people started packing on pounds?), I am not sure after watching my farming grandparents. And eggs were bad for awhile and now they are okay again. I'll go with common sense. But I'll still have my Angus Burger and Onion Rings every couple of weeks!!!! No food police for me. But I most certainly hope that I got my farming grandparents genes; if you never hear from me again, it'll be because I didn't:rofl:. Donna

Eat and drink what you want but in moderation. Exercise enough. Laugh. I'll trade that for dying peacefully in my sleep at 75-80.

Holiday Season Party-Eating Etiquette, Rules & Tips 8. Same for pies. Apple. Pumpkin. Mincemeat. Have a slice of each. Or, if you don't like mincemeat, have two apples and one pumpkin. Always have three. When else do you get to have more than one dessert? President's Day? 9. Did someone mention fruitcake? Granted, it's loaded with the mandatory celebratory calories, but avoid it at all cost. I mean, c'mom, have some standards. I like pies. Islandsox said that there "was only one fruitcake in the world" and he apparently identified himself on the NSR thread.

The caloric restriction lending itself to a longer lifespan bears some truth. I think it was Cornell University that is doing the experiment with some monkeys but there was an article about it in the NYTimes a few weeks ago.

Both my parents are in their late 90s now; smoked and drank heavy for years but stopped both when they entered their 70s.Donna So I guess that means you can still clean out your system after its contaminated or you can de-stress your life after stressing yourself out. I think SCY is right, you can't stress over things you can't control. Vitamin D -- is it in or out? Are we using sunscreen or not? Or we taking glucosamine or not? Are antioxidants effective or not? Oh, are they? Anyone taking alpha lipoic acid? Are antioxidants regulated or do they just have that "the FDA has not approved the statements" on the bottle stuff? I haven't done that research. Someone must know. My buddy who owns some a "whole food" type store says that if you only take 3 things, it should be a multi-vitamin, CoQ10 and glucosamine. He says the glucosamine really helps dogs with arthritis, for all you posters with dog avatars.

. My buddy who owns some a "whole food" type store says that if you only take 3 things, it should be a multi-vitamin, CoQ10 and glucosamine. He says the glucosamine really helps dogs with arthritis, for all you posters with dog avatars. What about dogs who have bad shoulders from years of doggy paddle?