scy vs lcm

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other than turns, what makes someone better at one or the other?
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  • Brad: Plus I have to disagree with your assessement that Ryan is a better in Short Course IM than Michael... However, Ryan did break the month old Phelps's 200 IM record of 1:41.30 with a time of 1:40.55. My comment was that I would guess that Ryan would beat Michael in a short course yard 200 IM. If he broke his record by nearly a full second within a month, then I would say he would stand a pretty good chance. I did not make a comment about the 400 IM which requires more "above the water" swimming than the 200 since staying under water for long periods of time creates oxygen deprivation which would severely hinder your performance at the end of a long race. The point is Ryan can make up for a lack of height and perhaps "above the water" swimming ability when compared with Michael Phelps because of his tremendous under water ability. This can be achieved because of the ratio of under water to above the water is inverted when comparing LCM to SCY. I keep seeing that people say they feel that short course causes less fatigue than long course because of the rest on the turns. I think that it all depends on how you approach your turns and your race. If you don't create that much oxygen deprivation on the turns, resurface quickly, and don't maximize your under water kicking then you probably will be less fatigued. Certainly your arms will have more rest. My feeling, however, is that if you maximize your under water you do create oxygen deprivation that will cause your muscles to fail to respond. So either way, you need to strive to find the correct balance between under water and straight swimming and my guess is that everybody optimizes using different approaches for each individual.
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  • Brad: Plus I have to disagree with your assessement that Ryan is a better in Short Course IM than Michael... However, Ryan did break the month old Phelps's 200 IM record of 1:41.30 with a time of 1:40.55. My comment was that I would guess that Ryan would beat Michael in a short course yard 200 IM. If he broke his record by nearly a full second within a month, then I would say he would stand a pretty good chance. I did not make a comment about the 400 IM which requires more "above the water" swimming than the 200 since staying under water for long periods of time creates oxygen deprivation which would severely hinder your performance at the end of a long race. The point is Ryan can make up for a lack of height and perhaps "above the water" swimming ability when compared with Michael Phelps because of his tremendous under water ability. This can be achieved because of the ratio of under water to above the water is inverted when comparing LCM to SCY. I keep seeing that people say they feel that short course causes less fatigue than long course because of the rest on the turns. I think that it all depends on how you approach your turns and your race. If you don't create that much oxygen deprivation on the turns, resurface quickly, and don't maximize your under water kicking then you probably will be less fatigued. Certainly your arms will have more rest. My feeling, however, is that if you maximize your under water you do create oxygen deprivation that will cause your muscles to fail to respond. So either way, you need to strive to find the correct balance between under water and straight swimming and my guess is that everybody optimizes using different approaches for each individual.
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