Why do most masters swimmers hate breaststroke?

The latest threads clearly reveal that the vast majority of masters swimmers wish breaststroke did not exist (except Peter, Allen, Aquafeisty, and a possiblely experimenting SCY freestyler). So why does everyone hate breaststroke? :mad: I'll go first. I hated it when I was young because it was too slow, I never learned how to do it right, and I never learned the wave action because it didn't exist when I was young. I can't seem do get the timing right now. And I have no excuse. Unlike my shoulder, my knees are fully intact. Not sure I have the gumption or time to put in 100,000 yards for a complete overhaul on a stroke I don't swim in meets. But I'd like to be able to fake it in IMs ...
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    OK YOU HERETICS LISTEN UP. Crawl, Fly and Back are beautiful stroke...Breaststroke is just divine. That's the end of it. As for who's calves are what. What % of playing Football (soccer for the unenlightened) do you think didn't involve running. I think I'm gonna have to shave my pins down, fake tan and baby-oil them for the contest... :ROFL:
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    I think I'm gonna have to shave my pins down, fake tan and baby-oil them for the contest...:ROFL: I think that would constitute forum flirting.
  • I think that hard work can help anyone get better. I think that good technique can be taught. I have frequently spent just a few minutes helping some one (not a "natural"breaststroker)with their breaststroke and then they drop there times several seconds. That said genetics certainly has some role in swimming. Some people have predominantly fast twitch muscle fibers and some have slow.You don't see Olympic Freestyle sprinters who are not tall. The ankle flexibility that is helpful for breaststroke is opposite to the flexibility that is most helpful for the other strokes. There are just not many people that excel at breaststroke and excel at the other strokes,but a few do.
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    Somehow I see an adults only section to this forum being added.
  • I thought Brendan Hansen had 11" hands! Who is "whp?" Is that my typo? Some darn forumer said breaststrokers "were born." It must be that Stark guy, braggin' again. Or Peter Cruise. I just couldn't figure out how I bore one. But I've been told repeatedly, it's a recessive/progressive gene. :rofl: Actually it was me that said I hear breaststrokers are born ... I've read that before. I do use that line when my coach gives me a set of breaststroke, or long IM sets where my teammates lap me ... :dunno: I admire beautiful breaststroke, and really anyone that can swim it faster than I can, so pretty much everyone. We did a medley relay last night at the end of practice. There were 4 of us and two that can only swim free/back and then Rick and I. So it was pretty obvious who was going to do what. I also beat my secret teammate nemisis on that fly leg, despite her slight head start ... :groovy: :applaud: :wiggle: :banana: :woot:
  • Actually it was me that said I hear breaststrokers are born ... I've read that before. I do use that line when my coach gives me a set of breaststroke, or long IM sets where my teammates lap me ... :dunno: I admire beautiful breaststroke, and really anyone that can swim it faster than I can, so pretty much everyone. We did a medley relay last night at the end of practice. There were 4 of us and two that can only swim free/back and then Rick and I. So it was pretty obvious who was going to do what. I also beat my secret teammate nemisis on that fly leg, despite her slight head start ... :groovy: :applaud: :wiggle: :banana: :woot: Good for you, baby sister! I hope you get a secret nemesis on another team too. It's easier to keep it a secret. Will we be seeing a breaststroke avatar today?
  • Good for you, baby sister! I hope you get a secret nemesis on another team too. It's easier to keep it a secret. Will we be seeing a breaststroke avatar today? Definitely not ... I swam the fly leg ... Rick is a breaststroker, one of a few on the team ... My secret nemisis is in a younger age group, but she is my nemisis because she I train a lot harder ... she tends to skip out on sets she doesn't want to do and she never warms-up ... it drives me a bit crazy ... she is a distance swimmer though, but she is a flyer so down with her! ;)
  • Come on Rich,give the Ladies a break. You don't want to start something now. You need all the good Karma you can get between now and that 200.
  • The solution is simple. You're women and fickle. It is your perogative to change your minds. I guess this spills over into swimming too. "This is a curious dogma, but it is one of dogmas ....To come to this question of the existence of : it is a large and serious question, and if I were to attempt to deal with it in any adequate manner I should have to keep you here until Kindgdom Come, so that you will have to excuse me if I deal with it in a somewhat summary fashion." I prefer to think of myself as a highly diversified multi-event swimmer rather than merely "fickle." I have actually competed in each stroke. I have even swum distance free as part of an aquathlon and I do play in the OW. To be sure, generally I am body surfing. I even own the DVD "Go Swim All Strokes With Kaitlin Sandeno and Eric Vendt." To be sure, I believe that only "Rude Hormonal Fortress" has actually viewed it. (She likes *** best, as you know, but she loves fly and IMs too. She must have inherited some of my genes there. Har, Har.) In light of my diversity and open-mindedness about the strokes, I should have picked the philosopher option in the Caped's athlete poll. If you can name the philosopher I quoted above and his seminal work, I will forgive you. I took a lot of philosophy at that place I attended in the cold in NH. Now, I bet that's actually a bit of a shocker. :rofl:
  • I could be a sock model :joker: Now why didn't I think of that.I guess that is why I look good in a Kilt, you got to have strong legs to look good. Can you imagine one of those skinny runners and their anemic legs in a kilt:shakeshead: I do not have anemic runner legs. I'm just really "fickle." So I like to run and swim and swim a bunch of different strokes. If you want to be a sock model, Wayne, you will have to stop writing scholarly articles about breaststroke, get rid of that frog and put up an avatar of your "diamond" calf. You could also go vote as a "philosopher coach" on that "athlete poll" for me. I wanted to change my vote as a "stroker," but I couldn't. That poll prevented me from exercising my First Amendment right to fickleness.