Freestyle Stroke Question

Poolrat Terry did not start this thread he posted on it. Telling us what he thinks the problems are. I posted what I believe. Gull and Geek told what they thought. We talked about TI before Terry ever came on. He defends himself and his theory. I try to defend my beliefs. It would be a very dull site if everyone agreed with Terry, Gull, Geek or me. I believe everyone has the right to say what they want as long as they are not obscene. Terry has the right to disagree with anything I say. I am a big boy and take anyting that is handed out and I do retaliate and Terry does also. If we could not comment that would be boring (and I am never bored). As far as selling goes Terry make all you can your service is not free but you are giving free advice here. I also charge for my services but give free advice also. Last week I tried to give away some books I had for cost and my post was removed. Why not leave it to the Moderators. If they want me to disappear I will, if they want Terry to disappear he was not here before and I am sure he can do without the aggravation. Geek and Gull are great posters and if they were to disappear it would be a shame. It does Gile me when people defend the way Terry does sometimes, but I can also understand it.

So Please do us all a favor Geek and Gull.....Stop the whining please! If you don't like the comments made by Terry then please go to a different thread. I don't care how (or where) he markets his product and makes a living. My posts on this and other threads have questioned his ideas and training methodology, which is entirely appropriate for a discussion forum on a swimming website. If he does not want to be challenged, he shouldn't post here.

Wookie: So, you're the hillbilly Geek slurs. I was a wonderin'. I'm gonna go steal my son's (sorry, Geek, he's a triathlete) copy of TI Swimming and actually read it so that I know exactly what y'all :argue: fools are talkin' about. Leslie

Terry/Kaizen/Totalswimm: Have you ever considered that you brashness and emphasis on your product is what causes people to be so polarized about TI? In your essay above you have taken on the mainstream swimming community, a few of us on this forum, and a few coaches. Then, again, it's all wrapped up with a TI plug. To me, it's your reluctance to acknowledge that greatness, or mediocrity in my case, can be achieved using methods other than TI that rubs me a little wrong.

I don't care how (or where) he markets his product and makes a living. My posts on this and other threads have questioned his ideas and training methodology, which is entirely appropriate for a discussion forum on a swimming website. If he does not want to be challenged, he shouldn't post here. posted by Gull Well if that is so, then I am guilty of associating your posts and Geeks posts together as the same in some way? Certainly Geek has made it clear in many of his recent postings that he takes offense to the fact that Terry is here to market TI.....and that this is inappropriate in some way? I could understand perhaps if Terry posted a comment like "BTW you can buy my book at Amazon for $39.95 ....and there you can learn more about my philosophy of swimming"....or something to that effect.....BUT I can not find a single posting of Terry's anywhere that has any comments remotely like that. Terry's advice is free here (as George pointed out). I don't care about your (or anyone else's ) arguments about whether or not there is any value in what Terry says.....That kind of arguing is o.k. by me....I might chime in and lend support to one of several competing theories to add to an already existing argument....BUT when geek starts accusing Terry of shamelessly marketing TI it kinda gets under my skin....So I apologize if I accused you of something that you never did....See what happens when you run with the wrong crowd for too long Gull?!....(just j/k of course)...LOL!! Its not like I disagree with everything Geek has to say.....I have sided with him before on other issues. Newmastersswimmer

I said I didn't care how (or where) he markets his product. But he is marketing it. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Critics of established dogma can be equally dogmatic. And yes, I include myself in that category, too (at least when it comes to TI).

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, I still won't buy a heartrate monitor. I always find it enteraining to watch someone swim with a heartrate monitor. The spend forever getting it on their body, getting it plenty tight to stay on, swim one length of the pool and spend another 15 minutes re-adjusting because it slipped down. Ok, time to go hit the moonshine again and walk around barefootl

I think I will changre my name also. Any suggestions? I have to give thought to this because my wife and I do everthing together as a team. The geo is the short form of my name George. The chuck part is the short form of my wifes nick name Chuckie. Her real name is Mary Charlotte. I think I will stay with geochuck. Terry I think I liked the old name.

I will be going here www.costalegre.ca/Tenacatita.htm Johhny W made a couple of movies at Tenacatita bay. All of my little clinics are full as I want them to be. I will be changing my web site completely so there will be no products for sale just free swim stuff, videos of swimmers, workouts, history, etc etc. My other web sites are the money makers anyway, but I will not mention them here.