Originally posted by aquageek
If you were a car enthusiast, would you be more likely to buy Car and Driver if there was a picture of some boring sedan on the cover?
A fair number of the car magazines have a woman (in a swimsuit) on the car, who is usually wearing oversized floatation devices. :eek: (Okay, maybe just a little different than a noodle...)
Maybe we should get a cover picture of the Fear Factor stunt, where they drive a car into a pool.
(For all you francophobes out there, we have now concluded the french-speaking portion of this post.)
A.K. says, "So it sounds like a Bad Cover, however another Good Read."
I beg to differ. I think it is a wonderful cover, for the same reason that I actually loved Geek's and Gull's initial comments. When was the last time we had a serious, substantive discussion about what we want to read in our magazine? The cover, Geek and Gull have all been very usefully provocative on this subject, and for that I thank them.
Now, if you'll excuse me I'm going home to a dinner of freedom fries, burgers and freedom vanilla ice cream, washed down with a bottle of freedom champaign. Tomorrow, my wife has promised me a breakfast of sausage, freedom toast and freedom roasted coffee. She has an appointment at the hair dressers, where no doubt, she will chose from a selection of style choices including a freedom twist or freedom curls.
Sacre bleu! (OK, I lied about the french part. But I promise, no Partie Quebecois jokes...)
Matt
Originally posted by Matt S
(Now, if you'll excuse me I'm going home to a dinner of freedom fries, burgers and freedom vanilla ice cream, washed down with a bottle of freedom champaign. Tomorrow, my wife has promised me a breakfast of sausage, freedom toast and freedom roasted coffee. She has an appointment at the hair dressers, where no doubt, she will chose from a selection of style choices including a freedom twist or freedom curls.
Matt
Don't forget to have rosebuds of the prophet Mohammed for breakfast.
Originally posted by Swimmer Bill
As I may have mentioned in the past, the magazine was created to lend itself to a possible newsstand presence in the future. However, we were advised to approach that possibility very prudently – and we will discuss it at length whenever the time is right.
Questions: Is the magazine self-sustaining? (or) Does it receive subsidy from USMS?
Originally posted by lefty
Questions: Is the magazine self-sustaining? (or) Does it receive subsidy from USMS? It is for USMS members only so I suspect that it is supported entirely by USMS and it's members annual dues.
Originally posted by lefty
Questions: Is the magazine self-sustaining? (or) Does it receive subsidy from USMS?
USMS collects $8 for the magazine from each individual USMS registration.
Originally posted by Paul Smith
It appears that the two swimming publications (USMS/Swimming World) are trying to distinguish themselves...SW seems to be focusing more on masters competition, USMS on the fitness swimmer.
Hi Paul,
Sorry, I almost missed your message – but I’m glad you posted it because it’s one of the most common misconceptions about our magazine.
The job of an association publication (e.g.: the AARP magazine, AAA’s Via, and USMS SWIMMER) is to represent the many diverse activities and interests within the organization it serves. If successful, this type of publication doesn’t really need to do anything else to distinguish itself from the others.
SWIMMER’s focus is on the broad spectrum of USMS members -- not just one sector of our membership.
Originally posted by Matt S
To give the articles about water aerobic exercises greater heft and credibility, Bill felt compelled to point out that the authors of these articles have themselves set USMS records and performed at the highest levels in USMS. Why is it necessary for someone to be an elite athlete for me to take him/her seriously as a coach or an author?
Point of clarification: Jane Katz is an author, but she is not the author of the article. That credit belongs to Amy Wu, first-time writer for SWIMMER who has written for the New York Times.
The reason for mentioning Katz was to shed a little ray of light on the poorly conceived point -- brought to us by people who haven’t even read the article -- that no serious swimmer does water aerobics. Katz is a serious swimmer. She does water aerobics.
We haven’t had a whole lot of elite level athletes write for the magazine. Most of the time, we use professional writers. Some of these writers are also Masters swimmers. If you take a peek at the author credits on each article, you’ll notice the writers are credited accordingly.
Originally posted by msgrupp
The only problem, IMHO, is that USMS Swimmer is NOT sold on a newstand or at a bookstore (or at least that I've found). People pick up single copies of magazines based on the cover. Those who have a subscription, which is what most of the people on this board have, receive the issue no matter WHAT the cover is.
As I may have mentioned in the past, the magazine was created to lend itself to a possible newsstand presence in the future. However, we were advised to approach that possibility very prudently – and we will discuss it at length whenever the time is right.
Originally posted by Suit Chaser
This discussion has proven once again that you can't make intolerant people tolerant, and even the most reasonable person can't reason with people who are unreasonable.
"...but I'm a late-bloomer..."
"...but I can't stand noodlers..."
Guys, get over it. And get over yourselves.
Perhaps you could show us how to meet your level of maturity by being more tolerant of our intolerance. That would certainly make you more praiseworthy.
This discussion has proven once again that you can't make intolerant people tolerant, and even the most reasonable person can't reason with people who are unreasonable.
"...but I'm a late-bloomer..."
"...but I can't stand noodlers..."
Guys, get over it. And get over yourselves.
Originally posted by Suit Chaser
This discussion has proven once again that you can't make intolerant people tolerant, and even the most reasonable person can't reason with people who are unreasonable.
"...but I'm a late-bloomer..."
"...but I can't stand noodlers..."
Guys, get over it. And get over yourselves.
May I add one thing to your commentary....
It's just a magazine!
