The Steroid Hall Of Shame

How about female US swimers who made a surprising return to competition for Sydney because she was talked into it by a man she was eating with in New York?

The Daily Illini, the newspaper for the U. of Illinois has a great story about everyone and a really good editorial. yesterday, they had an article about Phelps. both articles were wire articales.

Originally posted by NotVeryFast The only problem is not every one is "speeding". Using your analogy, maybe we should set up random DUI checkpoints for everyone that passes through. Random testing at meets - testing of all top 25 finishers and testing before and after each season might help.

Originally posted by NotVeryFast Think of it as like speeding How about not. For one thing, driving your car isn't a race, or shouldn't be. Secondly, the assumtion here is that "everyone is doing it" and that somehow makes it OK. I find the estimate that 50% of Olympians are drug cheats is pretty dubious.

Originally posted by NotVeryFast ...so it seems a bit harsh to pick on the few of them who failed a drugs test for some reason. Now, this is a good point. I certainly agree we should be kindler and gentler to those who cheat.

There is an interesting argument here about why drugs should be permitted in sport: www.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/.../WhyWeShouldAllowDrugs_000.pdf I can't find the article now, but I read it was estimated that at least 50% of competitors at the 2000 Olympics were using banned substances, so it seems a bit harsh to pick on the few of them who failed a drugs test for some reason. Another article here, about the question of people taking substances that aren't banned at the time they take them, but the substances become banned later on: www.athleticscholarships.net/performance-enhancing-drugs-swimming.htm Why isn't sugar a banned substance? It's highly performance enhancing both in the short term due to the energy release, and in the long term due to the body's response of insulin secretion which fuels muscle growth. Insulin itself is a banned substance, but you can guzzle all the sugar you want and get the same result, and it will be equally as damaging to your long term health as if you kept injecting insulin.

Originally posted by aquageek Now, this is a good point. I certainly agree we should be kindler and gentler to those who cheat. I detect some sarcasm. Think of it as like speeding - you have a stream of cars going along a road one behind the other, all of them a bit over the speed limit. They all know they're speeding, they all know everyone else is speeding. Then the police pick just one of them and prosecute them for speeding, put their picture up everywhere, name and shame them, and talk as if they were the only person doing it. What would be the point?

The only person on the list that admitted taking steroids was a Canadian Ben Johnston. All the others and Carl Lewis deny knowingly taking them. I cannot deny it, I took 1 pill in 1956, until I found out how they made them. I just read a story about a Canadian coach who supplied his own water at poolside for his young swimmers. I wonder what made up his drink.

Frankie Andreu and his wife claimed to have HEARD Lance say he used various substances when asked by a doctor. This information surfaced during a lawsuit filed by Lance to get paid for a bonus that a company didn't want to pay. Lance eventually won. So far, no one else has claimed to have heard Lance admit to using EPO or anything else. Some believe Frankie, some don't.

Did anyone see the article where Lnace Armstrong's tem mates, one his former roommate admit to useing EPO. I think that Lance said he used it while getting treatment for his cancer.