Help My Flutter Kick is Horrible!

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I am slow, and when I mean slow, I mean slow. I can do a 26 sec 50 with fins, but without I come in just under 1:20! I think a big part of it is just taking the fins off and doing a lot of kick sets to learn to feel the water better with my feet. I have a good breaststroke kick so I don't think my problem is an overly weak pair of legs, although they could be in better shape. Also, myankles are fairly flexible as I can point my toes and make my feet bend backwards past an even position with my shins. However, I do think that I need to loosen up my ankles when I kick. I feel like I get more out of my kick for those brief moments when I allow my ankles to snap back and forth with my kick. I think I actually need to relax more to kick faster as weird as that sounds. I suppose the answer to my question is that I simply need to take of the fins and do kick set after kick set until I learn to feel the water better with my feet and become more efficient.
  • like under 30 29's, 28's, 27's, 26's, 25's ... take more rest if you need it there's a problem when you're doing your test sets at 23 and your training sets slower than 35 you MUST go faster on your training sets This could be the MAIN reason why you have stopped making improvements Ande How much closer?
  • here's an update to the "Help my KICK is Horrible" Program Everyone can improve their kicking abilty & speed. "Anything you DO & measure, IMPROVES." Begin with beliefs & self image. Some swimmers believe they are slow kickers, they believe their kick is "horrible." Their evidence is "they can't kick fast." Other swimmers kick faster. Their times are slow. Usually they have no clue what their times are. When their coach assigns a kick set, the "bad kickers" move to the back of the lane, then proceed to plod through the set. The true tragedy is, slow kickers have a weak kick when they swim. Swimmers who are faster kickers are at an advantage. It doesn't have to be that way. You can improve your kicking speed and ablity. I used to be one of the slowest kickers on the team then I became one of the fastest kickers on the team. Begin by TESTING YOURSELF: Time yourself for fast 25's, 50's & 100's : 1) kick without a board from a dive, 2) kick with a board from a push, and 3) swim. Do the following set at least 3 times a week: 4 x (1 25 kick FAST; 3 x 25 swim easy on :45 or 1:00, followed by for time) on the fast kicks: YOU'VE really GOT TO GO FOR IT. Make it a LIFE or DEATH MATTER. Pay attention to your times and work on improving them from one week to the next. Learn how to kick fast properly: 1) Move your feet fast and 2) Catch and feel water with your shins, calves, & feet when you kick Improve your kicking technique, have someone watch you kick and offer you technique suggestions on how to kick faster. Work to improve your toe point, your foot & ankle flexibility. stretch your ankles & feet the more flexible your feet are the faster you can kick once you improve your kicking speed start working on speed endurance by doing fast 50's, 75's and 100's ALSO integrate your kick when you swim fast. Every world class sprinter has an awesome kick. Almost all world class sprinters have an AWESOME SDK Sprint KICKING improvement program improve the kicking and swimming results for poor kickers Testing please test all out 25's, 50's & 100's: 1) flutter kick with a board 2) streamline flutter kick with no board 3) freestyle put plenty of rest between each like a very easy 75 or 125 then get out of the pool and rest at least 2 minutes Report your Results here Training 1) do 12 x 25 kick 1 as fast as possible for time 3 easy recovery concentrating on distance per kick rest 30 seconds on the wall after each easy one 2) do 12 x 25 swim 1 as fast as possible for time blasting your legs 3 easy recovery 3) stretch your feet / ankles to improve your toe point 4) do leg weight lifting exercises to improve your legs strength, power and speed. Do: leg press, leg extensions, leg curls, & jumps 5) Try a 6 week kick improvement program Train hard 3 times a week for 5 weeks then Test for time on Friday or Saturday then REST during week 6 Take it easy, just do 1 fast 25 kick each day then test your 25 kicking times on the last work out of the week Report your results, here This will help you become a faster kicker. Good luck. Ande
  • good job, you're back on it hope we get more working on their kicking speed In Friday's March 6th practice I worked with a swimmer had him kick a fast 25 with a board went 35 let him rest 3 minutes gave him a few instructions had him kick another fast 25 with a board went 30.5
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    Starting over: 1/25: 25.32 3/08: 24:14 Took six weeks to work on faster training sets. Those had been 37-38 seconds. Now they are 28-31, though I did peel off one at 25 seconds.
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    Starting over: 1/25: 25.32 3/08: 24:14 4/11: 24:32 Haven't had much time for swimming or training, because of my job. Yesterday I rode my bike for the first time since fall and can tell my legs fell out of shape. As summer progresses, my legs will get stronger, and I hope to see these times drop.
  • Are YOU working on improving your flutter kick? Ande LINKS to Speed Training Programs: Try them out, report your results. Help My flutter Kick is Horrible U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums - View Single Post - Help My Flutter Kick is Horrible! my original advice Help my SDK is Horrible Help! My SDK is Horrible! - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums Help my Speed is Horrible Help My Speed is Horrible! - U.S. Masters Swimming Discussion Forums a few excellent videos Armoury kicked in his 44.94 100 fr YouTube- Amaury Leveaux - WR- 44.94 -100m Freestyle - Rijeka men's 4x100 freestyle relay - Beijing - UNDERWATER VIEW YouTube- men's 4x100 freestyle relay - Beijing - UNDERWATER VIEW phelps freestyle YouTube- Michael Phelps freestyle multi angle camera
  • Do YOU NEED to improve your flutter kick? How fast can you kick a 25, 50, 75, 200 & 200? What are your times? What's the fastest interval you can make 5 x 100 kicking? How well do you kick while you're swimming? if you watch speed boats go fast, the propeller sprays a rooster tail out the back. What does your swimming rooster tail look like? Is your kick continuous or interupted?
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    One thing I'd like to mention... As a beginner, I've been told repeatedly to not bend my legs (or only bend them very slightly). When I practice streamlining with a flutter kick I barely move. So I've been watching videos of swimmers and see that the knee does in fact bend *a lot*. For instance in the video above, when the feet are the farthest apart in the flutter kick, one knee will be bent as much as 45 degrees. This is quite a bit and far from "don't bend your legs". I think the main point is that the thigh should be in line with the torso, and the leg should only bend maybe 5 - 10 degrees at the hip. Knees should never toward the chest. But, the leg is in fact bent quite a bit during half of the kick. But I'm just now learning to swim so correct me if I'm wrong.