I am slow, and when I mean slow, I mean slow. I can do a 26 sec 50 with fins, but without I come in just under 1:20! I think a big part of it is just taking the fins off and doing a lot of kick sets to learn to feel the water better with my feet. I have a good breaststroke kick so I don't think my problem is an overly weak pair of legs, although they could be in better shape. Also, myankles are fairly flexible as I can point my toes and make my feet bend backwards past an even position with my shins. However, I do think that I need to loosen up my ankles when I kick. I feel like I get more out of my kick for those brief moments when I allow my ankles to snap back and forth with my kick. I think I actually need to relax more to kick faster as weird as that sounds.
I suppose the answer to my question is that I simply need to take of the fins and do kick set after kick set until I learn to feel the water better with my feet and become more efficient.
thanks for the update
you're pretty fast kicker
you've made nice improvements
way to go
suggestions
1) that's a lot of kicking for one day
spread the testing over several days
2) correct splitting
1:22 / 1:35 is pretty poor splitting for a 200
13 sec diff is WAY too much
ease up on your first 100
ie
kick the
1st 50 at 90% effort
2nd 50 at 92%
3rd 50 at 94%
7th length at 97%
8th length ALL OUT
go for 0 - 4 sec diff between 100's
36 42 is the same problem as your 200
ease up a bit on the 1st 50 then bring it home
stay 0 - 2 sec apart
get your 25 splits on the 50
even or negative split everything in practice
3) test 25 times too
4) kick 150's to prepare for 200's
075's to prepare for 100's
the time works out to be about the same
update
I haven't done the kick test set for a while
(best times were achieved ~3 months ago,
200@ 3:02, 100 @ 1:21.5, 50 @ 35)
I haven't had as much work to do lately so I've been training harder,
doing things like 1650 kick for time, as I feel my main weakness is transitioning to any distances above 100 yards. I had 05k yards in this week already prior to today, so I figured I would do the set just to mix things up but my legs would be too tired to get any best times in.
just a recap, I kick with a board, all open turns
4 x 200 kick descend
rest
1x200 for time
rest
4 x 100 descend
rest
100 for time
rest
4 x 50 kick descend
rest
50 kick for time.
200: went 2:57 (1:22/1:35)
100: went 1:18 (36/42)
50: went 33.7 (got the lifeguard to time me)
i really worked it hard, almost lost my lunch in the gutter when it was over.
comments? I guess my 100 is a little slow, probably should be more in the 1:15 region. I really need to work up my endurance on the back 100 of my 200 as well.
thanks for the update
you're pretty fast kicker
you've made nice improvements
way to go
suggestions
1) that's a lot of kicking for one day
spread the testing over several days
2) correct splitting
1:22 / 1:35 is pretty poor splitting for a 200
13 sec diff is WAY too much
ease up on your first 100
ie
kick the
1st 50 at 90% effort
2nd 50 at 92%
3rd 50 at 94%
7th length at 97%
8th length ALL OUT
go for 0 - 4 sec diff between 100's
36 42 is the same problem as your 200
ease up a bit on the 1st 50 then bring it home
stay 0 - 2 sec apart
get your 25 splits on the 50
even or negative split everything in practice
3) test 25 times too
4) kick 150's to prepare for 200's
075's to prepare for 100's
the time works out to be about the same
update
I haven't done the kick test set for a while
(best times were achieved ~3 months ago,
200@ 3:02, 100 @ 1:21.5, 50 @ 35)
I haven't had as much work to do lately so I've been training harder,
doing things like 1650 kick for time, as I feel my main weakness is transitioning to any distances above 100 yards. I had 05k yards in this week already prior to today, so I figured I would do the set just to mix things up but my legs would be too tired to get any best times in.
just a recap, I kick with a board, all open turns
4 x 200 kick descend
rest
1x200 for time
rest
4 x 100 descend
rest
100 for time
rest
4 x 50 kick descend
rest
50 kick for time.
200: went 2:57 (1:22/1:35)
100: went 1:18 (36/42)
50: went 33.7 (got the lifeguard to time me)
i really worked it hard, almost lost my lunch in the gutter when it was over.
comments? I guess my 100 is a little slow, probably should be more in the 1:15 region. I really need to work up my endurance on the back 100 of my 200 as well.