I am slow, and when I mean slow, I mean slow. I can do a 26 sec 50 with fins, but without I come in just under 1:20! I think a big part of it is just taking the fins off and doing a lot of kick sets to learn to feel the water better with my feet. I have a good breaststroke kick so I don't think my problem is an overly weak pair of legs, although they could be in better shape. Also, myankles are fairly flexible as I can point my toes and make my feet bend backwards past an even position with my shins. However, I do think that I need to loosen up my ankles when I kick. I feel like I get more out of my kick for those brief moments when I allow my ankles to snap back and forth with my kick. I think I actually need to relax more to kick faster as weird as that sounds.
I suppose the answer to my question is that I simply need to take of the fins and do kick set after kick set until I learn to feel the water better with my feet and become more efficient.
nancy
I need to watch you kick to see what you're doing and figure out what you need to do.
you asked:
How much does this depend on back flexibility?
not much, you want your body to be straight. like a needle
no forward bend, no back bending,
you want good shoulder flexibility for proper streamlining and excellent foot and ankle flexibility to be your fins.
how flexible are your feet and ankles?
What's your age?
what are your proportions?
what sort of suit were you wearing?
describe your leg strength
I think technique is your main issue
There's an ideal way to streamline and move your legs for maximum kicking speed. Some people talk about feel for the water. you want feel for the water when you kick
I really need to see what you're doing
to tell you what you need to do.
I do suggest you test your self
dive in
streamline and flutter kick a 25 as fast as you can go,
you may take quick half breastroke pulls to breathe
though I suggest most people should do these no breather
some people have more ideal body proportions and shapes to kick fast
everyone can benefit from the focused speed kick training I've described in this thread,
it takes weeks, months, and years of consistent training to get closer to your true potential.
The cool thing is when you start you'll rapidly improve
Ande
We got video'ed again but as usual, the feet don't fit in the frame (it is on the hand entry and arm pull).
OK, question:
I am still taking over 1 minute per 25y to kick barefoot and it exhausts me. How much does this depend on back flexibility ? While I can bend over frontwards more than most of my group, bending over backwards I am quite stiff. If I am laying on a mat I can barely lift either hands or feet with my chin on the mat. If I try pushing up with my hands, it hurts my lower back. I am still trying to figure it all out.
nancy
I need to watch you kick to see what you're doing and figure out what you need to do.
you asked:
How much does this depend on back flexibility?
not much, you want your body to be straight. like a needle
no forward bend, no back bending,
you want good shoulder flexibility for proper streamlining and excellent foot and ankle flexibility to be your fins.
how flexible are your feet and ankles?
What's your age?
what are your proportions?
what sort of suit were you wearing?
describe your leg strength
I think technique is your main issue
There's an ideal way to streamline and move your legs for maximum kicking speed. Some people talk about feel for the water. you want feel for the water when you kick
I really need to see what you're doing
to tell you what you need to do.
I do suggest you test your self
dive in
streamline and flutter kick a 25 as fast as you can go,
you may take quick half breastroke pulls to breathe
though I suggest most people should do these no breather
some people have more ideal body proportions and shapes to kick fast
everyone can benefit from the focused speed kick training I've described in this thread,
it takes weeks, months, and years of consistent training to get closer to your true potential.
The cool thing is when you start you'll rapidly improve
Ande
We got video'ed again but as usual, the feet don't fit in the frame (it is on the hand entry and arm pull).
OK, question:
I am still taking over 1 minute per 25y to kick barefoot and it exhausts me. How much does this depend on back flexibility ? While I can bend over frontwards more than most of my group, bending over backwards I am quite stiff. If I am laying on a mat I can barely lift either hands or feet with my chin on the mat. If I try pushing up with my hands, it hurts my lower back. I am still trying to figure it all out.