Help My Flutter Kick is Horrible!

Hi Not Very Fast, great to hear from you fins ARE for wimps, though they might be good for helping beginners learn how to kick 2:09 in the 200 LCM fr is pretty decent, and so is 20 for a 25 m k, test 25's without any SDKs I'm sure you can get yours down to 16 or 17 good luck with your kicking when I was in college I could do 8 x 100 k LCM on 1:30 I'm pretty sure that now I could make 8 x 100 k on 1:40, flutter with a board would be a challenge It's a good idea to train so you can maintain a strong kick for your entire 200 LCM free, plus it's smart for you to work with your kick enough to understand gears and effort, you can adjust the intensity of your kick depending upon which event you're doing, ie the six beat kick you use in your 50 is different from the 6 beat kick you use in your 100, 200, and 400. watch Manaudou break the World Record in the 200 meter Free youtube.com/watch so did phelps in his 1:43 200 M free at worlds It's important for you to do fast 150 & 200 kicks plus swim fast 100's, 150's, 200's, 250's and 300's with a strong kick the entire way you should do some of the sprint kicking sets but keep in mind I created them to help slow kickers become faster kickers. Once they improve their speed, the next step is to work on 50's, 75's 100's and then to learn how to pace, split and control their effort to produce the best time. Hope this helps, Ande There is some good advice in this thread. I've been working seriously on my kick for the last two months now. At my club pretty much nobody can actually do the kick sets without using fins, but I'm determined to become the 2nd person in the pool who can do them. To me, using fins is the wimp's option, all good swimmers seem to have a good kick, so I figure if I want to be a good swimmer I need a good kick. To be able to do the club sets I need to be able to do, for example, 5 x 100m kick on 2:00. Last night I did some fairly easy 25m kick lengths, focusing on technique, and gradually speeded up to full speed. Then I did a couple of 4 x 25m kick on 60, my fastest 25m was 20.09 (from a push off). I'm perhaps cheating a little in that I do about 10 dolphin kicks before starting my flutter kick, but I figure this is good training in itself anyway. I was expecting to be too tired to do much more kick after that, but I started a set of 4 x 100m kick on 2:30 anyway, and somehow managed to hold 1:55 for each one, my previous best being 1:58 for each one. I think some of this was due to following the advice to feel the water on my shins and try to get propulsion from them. I think I still have a long road ahead to be able to do 5 x 100m kick on 2:00, but I do think it's worth it. I did a 200m free PB last weekend, going 2:09.79 compared to my previous PB of 2:10.97, and I think the stronger kick helped me to do that. I don't believe the people who say kick doesn't matter, all good 200m swimmers look like they have an outboard motor attached to their legs with a powerful kick for the whole distance.

Hi Not Very Fast, great to hear from you fins ARE for wimps, though they might be good for helping beginners learn how to kick 2:09 in the 200 LCM fr is pretty decent, and so is 20 for a 25 m k, test 25's without any SDKs I'm sure you can get yours down to 16 or 17 good luck with your kicking when I was in college I could do 8 x 100 k LCM on 1:30 I'm pretty sure that now I could make 8 x 100 k on 1:40, flutter with a board would be a challenge It's a good idea to train so you can maintain a strong kick for your entire 200 LCM free, plus it's smart for you to work with your kick enough to understand gears and effort, you can adjust the intensity of your kick depending upon which event you're doing, ie the six beat kick you use in your 50 is different from the 6 beat kick you use in your 100, 200, and 400. watch Manaudou break the World Record in the 200 meter Free youtube.com/watch so did phelps in his 1:43 200 M free at worlds It's important for you to do fast 150 & 200 kicks plus swim fast 100's, 150's, 200's, 250's and 300's with a strong kick the entire way you should do some of the sprint kicking sets but keep in mind I created them to help slow kickers become faster kickers. Once they improve their speed, the next step is to work on 50's, 75's 100's and then to learn how to pace, split and control their effort to produce the best time. Hope this helps, Ande There is some good advice in this thread. I've been working seriously on my kick for the last two months now. At my club pretty much nobody can actually do the kick sets without using fins, but I'm determined to become the 2nd person in the pool who can do them. To me, using fins is the wimp's option, all good swimmers seem to have a good kick, so I figure if I want to be a good swimmer I need a good kick. To be able to do the club sets I need to be able to do, for example, 5 x 100m kick on 2:00. Last night I did some fairly easy 25m kick lengths, focusing on technique, and gradually speeded up to full speed. Then I did a couple of 4 x 25m kick on 60, my fastest 25m was 20.09 (from a push off). I'm perhaps cheating a little in that I do about 10 dolphin kicks before starting my flutter kick, but I figure this is good training in itself anyway. I was expecting to be too tired to do much more kick after that, but I started a set of 4 x 100m kick on 2:30 anyway, and somehow managed to hold 1:55 for each one, my previous best being 1:58 for each one. I think some of this was due to following the advice to feel the water on my shins and try to get propulsion from them. I think I still have a long road ahead to be able to do 5 x 100m kick on 2:00, but I do think it's worth it. I did a 200m free PB last weekend, going 2:09.79 compared to my previous PB of 2:10.97, and I think the stronger kick helped me to do that. I don't believe the people who say kick doesn't matter, all good 200m swimmers look like they have an outboard motor attached to their legs with a powerful kick for the whole distance.