I just got Total immersion book yesterday.
Have read part 1 of the book and just started doing the drills today.
It seems an excallent way to swim and definatly will improve my f/s.
But i'm a bit weary because it's so comercail. so my question is,
Is Total immersion as good a way to swim as it makes out?
or is it the best way to learn how to swim?
Are there better books out there that teach you how to swim well(properly)?
Hope that makes sense
Swifty
Former Member
Originally posted by lefty
Terry wrote, Have I not made it clear enough that our goal is not to coach or produce elite swimmers, but to guide "just folks" to greater efficiency."
Terry, could you amplify what you mean by "spearing." I spend a lot of time working out at a gym and I see this kind of swimming. Swimmers often ask me if I think they are doing right. I have no answer because I am unsure what they are trying to accomplish (in respects to their stroke) with that kind of entry.
Buy his dvd I am sure he explains it well there. Lefty I don't think he should give you free lessons.
Originally posted by scyfreestyler
They are far left liberals and I am a moderate republican.
I bet if you asked them they'd say they're moderate Democrats and you're a far right conservative! :D
Need to join a Masters Club close to the border so I can get USM card. Belligham? Wash who should I contact re workout times and getting signed up or is there a pool in Blaine? I will race this year. or email me swim_downhill@yahoo.ca
Originally posted by knelson
Good idea. I propose the subject of TI is off limits during the dinner. Terry and Ion (T&I...funny!) are both welcome, but this rule applies to them, as well ;)
Sounds like a dinner with my in-laws! :D They are far left liberals and I am a moderate republican. Political discussion at family events is all but banned now.
Just the same, it's a good idea. No sense in making an otherwise enjoyable occasion into a heated debate. As the time moves closer we can determine a time that is best for everybody. I am going only as a spectator and the venue is relatively close to home, roughly 70 miles, so I can go most anytime.
Originally posted by knelson
I bet if you asked them they'd say they're moderate Democrats and you're a far right conservative! :D
You would win that bet! Actually, they don't see me as being quite as extreme as I see them.
Originally posted by totalswimm
It probably does sound a bit zen to someone accustomed to terms like EN3 -- which to be honest, though I've coached swimming with consistent success for 34 years -- including world ranked swimmers from the 50m free to the 1500m -- I couldn't tell you what that means. I've never had much interest in the minutiae of energy system training.
Instead I focus on the pure experience of swimming your best race - how does each part feel. Once we have a good grasp, we rehearse the parts until the feeling we seek becomes ingrained. As we do that the energy system gets trained, but that's always peripheral, simply a byproduct.
It's not for everyone, but for those who learn how to do it, it becomes pretty much failsafe -- and a lot more engaging than "buffering enzymes."
And TI is pretty much all or nothing. It's not a bandaid. It's a mindset, as I've said.
You asked what I meant by "fast" so I tried to express myself in terms most coaches are comfortable with. If you agree that to swim fast you have to train fast, then perhaps you can explain how "effortless" applies to a race pace set. Or is that more hyperbole, like "pure" and "failsafe"?
As for buffering enzymes, I don't know how "engaging" they are, but they are pretty darn useful during a race when you're dealing with lactic acid. Or is lactate production eliminated by TI?
You know, a few years ago my wife and spent a weekend in Big Sur. I recommend it highly. Anyway, one of the locals told us that Big Sur is not a place but a state of mind.
George, there's a masters team that practices at 5:30 AM on weekdays at the Arne Hanna Aquatic Center in Bellingham. If you go to the pool at any time you might be able to get some information. Or you could just show up at practice time, pay the lap swimmer fee to get in, and introduce yourself. There might be one day a week they don't practice. Wednesday or Friday or something like that. A USS club called BBST practices at the same time and place so don't get them confused. BBST will be in the far lanes by the pace clocks and the masters will be on the near side of the pool in front of the lifeguard tower. Or, more obviously, they are the old people with no coach.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
I was tired at the 2005 Long Curse Nationals, I saw overtraining.
Long Curse Nationals, huh? Freudian slip or intentional? :)
I'll see you this summer at Worlds, Ion. Good luck with your training.
Originally posted by scyfreestyler
It seems like quite a few people from the forum will be going to the World's at Stanford. Perhaps we could arrange a dinner one night so we can put some faces to some names. Just an idea.
Good idea. I propose the subject of TI is off limits during the dinner. Terry and Ion (T&I...funny!) are both welcome, but this rule applies to them, as well ;)
George: check the PNA website for information on teams in Western Washington and workout times: http://www.swimpna.org/
