In connection to the poll about which stroke you train the most at; I want to test my hypothesis that no one outside of a small group of masochistic freaks would swim more than 50% of a regular 3000-4000 yard workout butterfly.......So if I'm wrong let me know by voting and by commenting on how you swim all that butterfly in a single workout?
Newmastersswimmer
the kids that i train with (small Div I school) that are flyers will routinely do sets like 6 or 7 100s fly say on 1:25 or 1:30.
me, I'm good for some 50s or 25s, but I never really trained much fly and other than doing IMs, I dont like doing it in practice, it tires you out too much.
Before I did my first 200 fly in competition I made a habit of ending every practice or every other one with a 200 fly when I was dead tired.
On long distance days there is really no way to get fly into the workout and yet keep the yardage up. But on IM or stroke days I do try to do fly to build up my shoulders. Today I did 20% of the workout fly, but that is not the norm.
I figure if I can gain some endurance doing fly all of my other strokes should benefit too.
Keep Flyin!:D
Since I'm injured right now, I do no fly in practice. Even if I was healthy, I would rarely go above 10% fly as I am not an IMer or a flyer (go backstroke...). The IMers/Flyers on my team would probably go above 10% on certain workouts...but I doubt any of them would go above 30%...it would be the rare workout that they did.
When I was "in shape", about 800 y/m was the "lethal limit" of how much fly I could do in a workout and still be able to get out of bed to go to work the next morning due to carryover fatigue. Didn't matter if it was all in one v-e-r-y slow stretch or broken into 25s, mixed into IM's or what kind of warmdown I did.
BTW, I know first hand from training briefly with Ande Raz, that he swims about .01% of his workouts butterfly...LOL!!....Sorry Ande I have to take my jabs when I get the chance...remember that one arm butterfly doesn't count!!....So even though you swim IM's...Seriously Dude....how many IM's do you actually swim at practice with regular 2 arm butterfly?...It's a wonder you can sprint butterfly so well and swim IM's so well??....More reason to want to take you down!
Newmastersswimmer
It totally depends on what day it is. If it is an IM day, I'll do a lot more fly than if it is a distance day. However, I rarely swim only 3000! Come opn kids, let's really do some work!
Originally posted by geochuck
Oh for the old days just 1 x 100 m trying to break 1 minute. Three times a week.
When were the good old days? The world record wasn't under a minute until 1960.
Originally posted by gull80
Well, he did say "trying." Yes in 1958 we were very close to 1 min for the 100 fly, and yes we were all trying to break 1 min me included. The fly was first swam in the 1956 Olympics, not the 100 but the 200.
Just to add we not only tried to break 1min in the 100m, we did with a flying start in the medley relay 1958. Yes it was 1960 when the record was broken.
