USMS Nationals qualifying

I am a USA swim coach and also registered athlete. I recently swam a USMS qualifying time in the 1650, but did it at a USA swim meet as a USA swimming athlete. Does it count? If not, do I need to travel to a masters meet that offers the 1650? That seems difficult.

  • You can work with your records/top ten person in your LMSC to get your times added to the USMS database. If your swim was done in a bulkhead pool, you need to provide measurements with a pool length certification form or your times will get automatically rejected.

    To make this short: theoretically, it is possible to have your time count for USMS. Practically, it depends on a few things.

  • Agreed that he needs to work with his LMSC Top 10 person to get his times added to the USMS database.  As long as the pool is on the USMS list as ok, his times for Top 10 do not need bulkhead measurements, whether or not the pool has a bulkhead.  Those are only needed from USA meets if there is a USMS record set.

  • They gave you a great answer about Top Ten times, but that was not your question. Unless something has changed in the last few months, NQTs don't have to be verified. You can do them in a workout. 

  • Correct. , we encourage you to attend USMS meets for additional reps (and to have fun!), but the qualifying time does not need to be in the USMS database. Here are FAQs for reference regarding the national qualifying times for 2025 Spring Nationals.  

  • that's great to know. I know my times once were automatically rejected for Top 10 (I did not swim a USMS record) because my times were not accompanied by bulkhead measurements from a USA meet. The pool is on file with USMS because it is being used multiple times a year for masters meets. It was a great time I swam that never counted for USMS. 
    That's why I always recommend sending in your measurements.