oscillating deformations of subcutaneous adipose tissue when swimming at higher speed

Hey Ande, Very interesting. I skimmed through the entire article- that sucker's long! I keep asking people what suit to wear for what event. I swim back, ***, and IM and the occasional mile. I prefer the "old" style suit for breaststroke, and I've used long legs for back and IM. But I'm not sold on 'em. I think I prefer the short leg. And being female, according to this, I probably wouldn't benefit too much (buoyance) with the long leg... I did notice that when I wore my long leg suit and took it off, there was A LOT of water in it. I thought, "Hmm, was I lugging all that through the water?" Couldn't be good. I think I'm done with the long leg suit. I think for Nationals I'll go with the "old" style suit and perhaps a short leg suit (no arms, never got on that bandwagon!) I have always noticed the buoyancy factor and now I know what causes it- those little bubbles are attached to me and pushing me out of the water, well trying! Again, thanks for sharing the article.

lol.. I like your title best Ande! I do remember someone discussing this very topic, and stating that for the most part these suits are for shaving off tenths and hundredths of seconds, not whole seconds. so it seems as though MANY factors during your swim could account for adding or subtracting tenths of a second, including getting your reflexes honed so your start is faster, streamlining better, turning efficiently etc.. It seems as though the full body suit is just one small step to getting only slightly faster, and that there are MANY other ways to achieve that type of time gain.. (if it even accounts for any time gain as the article questioned..) interesting...

it's not my title, it's just a phrase from the paper, that I thought was hilarious. We'd discussed it a few days earlier. looks to me like the author spent a lot of time gathering facts and writing it up ande Originally posted by jswim lol.. I like your title best Ande! I do remember someone discussing this very topic, and stating that for the most part these suits are for shaving off tenths and hundredths of seconds, not whole seconds. so it seems as though MANY factors during your swim could account for adding or subtracting tenths of a second, including getting your reflexes honed so your start is faster, streamlining better, turning efficiently etc.. It seems as though the full body suit is just one small step to getting only slightly faster, and that there are MANY other ways to achieve that type of time gain.. (if it even accounts for any time gain as the article questioned..) interesting...

I think it's worth pointing out that Rushall, one of the authors of that article, isn't exactly neutral on the subject of body suits. If you click on the link for "return to table of contents..." at the end of the article you are greeted by a page titled "SAVE OUR SPORT! BODYSUITS: THE SERIOUS THREAT TO THE VERY NATURE OF COMPETITIVE SWIMMING"

aha.. nice catch. ;)

the problem is pandoras box has opened there are now world records done by swimmers wearing the suits Would it be fair to remove these records from the books? Would it be fair to ban the suits and allow swimmers who aren't permitted to wear the suits to compete against the times of those who did? Ande Originally posted by knelson I think it's worth pointing out that Rushall, one of the authors of that article, isn't exactly neutral on the subject of body suits. If you click on the link for "return to table of contents..." at the end of the article you are greeted by a page titled "SAVE OUR SPORT! BODYSUITS: THE SERIOUS THREAT TO THE VERY NATURE OF COMPETITIVE SWIMMING"

good point... There are also, I noticed, women from countries where showing skin is taboo, who are now able to compete because of these suits, I thought that was pretty cool!

This is not new we talked about this in the 50s, when we had under water films of dolphins. My coach explained it as, the body ripples through the water. George

I always wear my fastskin, Love it. People ask me, does it *really* help. I say, of course, it holds in all the fat ripples. I drop about 3-4 seconds per 100 wearing it. Of course, I'm not fast by any stretch of the immagination. Seem like it doesn't help top swimmers as much.

swimming is fairly affordable when compared with sports like tennis, equestrian events, or golf the suits are definitely better for swimmers who have loose skin muscular 20 year olds might not need it things held in place, but as we get older it helps more ande Originally posted by LindsayNB I am no fan of the new suits, which seem to me to do little more than make the sport a whole lot more expensive, but I wonder exactly what a ban would look like. It seems to me that careful testing for bouyancy should be possible and that the current testing methods may be flawed, but when you go beyond that what do you do, set a maximum area limitation? I'm hoping the article turns out to be correct and that cheap tight suits or just shaving is as fast.