Beard DQ at WC

I was wondering the same thing. She did not go past 15 meters on any of the strokes. I would suspect it was the dreaded not "past the vertical towards the ***" on back to breaststroke. The officials have been getting the men for 15 meter violations, you can really see where great underwater dolphin kicks are huge for some swimmers. In the mens 100 and 200 IM it seems the better you can dolphin on fly and back the bigger lead you have. One guy even dolphined about 10-12 meters on the free leg! I wish the underwater photos were better, they seem cloudy.

I heard from one of the admin refs at the championships, that the DQ was for a non-simultanious touch. The DQ was not announced at the venue, nor were "final" times posted. michael

I agree. At the Olympics, it did not look like his turn was one continuous motion, since he did seem to glide (and kick?) after turning on to his stomach. Maybe that was the source of his temporary DQ. However, I'm not a turn judge and probably don't know what I'm talking about (not that that has ever stopped me before).

Arrons hand continues to move UNDERNEATH his body, which makes it diffucult to see by the judges. If his hand were outside of the body the judges could see it and would have no problem. Never think all these great swimmers do all things to perfection. Once upon a time there was a USC swimmer how would have won a gold medal in the 400 IM by 6-8 seconds, but she never got out of trials. She did not turn torwards the *** until after the "T" on the back to *** turn. It was so obvious they had to DQ her. I can totally relate to Amanda and her strained ankle, I had that for one meet and it hurt so bad, as she said hers hurt. Yet she still swam world class times. True grit in my opinion.

His hand did not appear to be continuously moving during the replay from the underwater camera at the Olympics.

Well I was curious. It seems so unlikely for the pros to make amateur mistakes. She may have been affected by her sprained ankle. In a way it's reassuring that even they can make such mistakes! :p

this is along the swme thought. I really do think that A. Peirsol does seem to stop before he flips. I recorded him at scm, it looks like after he flips onto his stomach, he stops for a very brief time. All of the other guys do sort of a "body whip." He doesn't. does anyone have any thoughts? It is so hard to detect.

not touching the wall with both hands at the same time on the same plain is the most common mistake in competitive swimming. One no longer has to touch the wall with hands in the same plane; or even having the shoulders level. One just has to touch the wall with both hands at the same time. (This is applys to Masters and USA Swimming - High school has its own set of rules). michael

I was talking with a high school judge. He said tha tnot touching the wall with both hands at the same time on the same plain is the most common mistake in competitive swimming. I think that is interesting. He said that is how most DQ's come about at meets. I think that he is probably right. I've noticed it when watching high school meeets and am always surprised how often it doesn't get called. It is very easy to see of all of the generally well known mistakes. Also, about Aaron. It is after the stroke is complete. Both of his hands are at his side frequently and his body is still. It seems then that he hesitates before he tucks his head and flips. I was once told to never have my hands both at my hips when i begin to flip because a judge will always call it. I've always thought that this was a DQ.

For FINA and Masters in fly and breaststroke you do not have to touch on the same plane. You have to touch both hands simultaneously at above or below the waters surface. Nothing is said about touching at the same level. Then when you push off your shoulders at at or past the verticle towards the breastwhen the swimmer leaves the wall. The way I teach fly and *** turns is to touch simultaneously, but one hand lower than the other. This allows a quicker turn:D