What have WE become?

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Former Member
I think it is sad we have slipped down the slope we call “being civil”. Being away from these posts for the better part of a week has allowed me to look at them in a different light then before. The thoughts and feelings of many of the people who post here are very raw right now. Decency, understanding, compassion, patience and kindness have been lost to pain and anger. I have learned some very valuable lessons over the past nineteen months. Often, anger is directly driven by pain. I read pain into many of the post here. People have offended one another and tramped on each others toes and people have been hurt emotionally. Gosh, I am the farthest thing from a counselor or referee for that matter, but I am qualified to say that each of us has good days, and each of us has bad days. Without exception, EVERY SINGLE POSTER was decent, understanding and compassionate towards me during a very tough time in my life. Ion has a way of invoking anger and hostility in people. Having said that, he reached out to me during a very tough time and demonstrated a very different and compassionate side then the one we see here. My point, in the final annalists we call life, what more do we really have then one another? We are a body of swimmers who share a common bond for the love of swimming and adult exercise in the water. Let us keep to this course as opposed to offending one another and fracturing our beloved sport with pain, hard feelings and anger. We are different, yet, we are the same. We all love our children, we all want to excel in life, we all want to think of ourselves are winners, we all want to be free people, we all want to raise our families and enjoy life as best we can. Regardless of how fast we are, how smart we are or anything else…. in the final toll….we all want and strive for many of the same things. As we all did on playgrounds all over the world as children, let’s shake hands and make up….
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    This: Originally posted by gull80 ... I don't dispute the fact that he has done well in spite of his late start. He's posted some solid times and is close to the NQT for the 1000, no small feat for a late starter. His dedication to the sport and his work ethic are impressive. What I object to is the way he tries to arbitrarily handicap the system to place himself at or near the top of USMS swimmers, in the process discounting or dismissing the efforts and achievements of others. I don't believe this represents good sportsmanship, which is part of being a great athlete. was posted in 'Share some good stories about humanity', where I vowed to not post anylonger. The post is wrong: .) USMS swimmers recognized that they don't work as much as they did in age-group days but rely on that for the easier to meet USMS standards; in fact many recognized that they don't work out much anymore, for example two said this in 'The Fastest Age'; .) without me taking a stand, late bloomers never had a voice, they were deemed in 'for the fun', for losing weight, for making friends but not for the competition; I still keep in mind posts where my results are demeaned; this is not good sportsmanship; I was clear enough on this many times, for people to not confuse good sporstmanship.
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    This: Originally posted by gull80 ... I don't dispute the fact that he has done well in spite of his late start. He's posted some solid times and is close to the NQT for the 1000, no small feat for a late starter. His dedication to the sport and his work ethic are impressive. What I object to is the way he tries to arbitrarily handicap the system to place himself at or near the top of USMS swimmers, in the process discounting or dismissing the efforts and achievements of others. I don't believe this represents good sportsmanship, which is part of being a great athlete. was posted in 'Share some good stories about humanity', where I vowed to not post anylonger. The post is wrong: .) USMS swimmers recognized that they don't work as much as they did in age-group days but rely on that for the easier to meet USMS standards; in fact many recognized that they don't work out much anymore, for example two said this in 'The Fastest Age'; .) without me taking a stand, late bloomers never had a voice, they were deemed in 'for the fun', for losing weight, for making friends but not for the competition; I still keep in mind posts where my results are demeaned; this is not good sportsmanship; I was clear enough on this many times, for people to not confuse good sporstmanship.
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