The Fastest Age

Originally posted by Ion Beza How is this contradiction that you make when writing that you are not interested in a late bloomer discussion but participating later on anyway just to argue? I changed my mind. Oops, did I forget to ask for your permission? Oh, lordy, will you ever forgive me??? :rolleyes: Now, if you excuse me, I feel like taking a nap, then again maybe I don't, nap, do, don't, do... :p

Originally posted by Scansy Way to go. Be proud of what you have accomplished no matter what anyone else says. And look forward to everything else you will still accomplish in swimming. I'm pretty much in the same boat - started last January - 34 years old, 5'9-1/2" (gotta get that 1/2" in there!:) ), 215lbs., spare tire. Now I am 35 years old, (still 5'9-1/2") but I go about 173lbs. Still have a spare tire - but now it is a spare tire for a Neon - instead of for an 18 wheeler! :rolleyes: I may not be as fast as some of the others who post here, but I am faster than I was!:D Thank You Paul :) You've done a pretty impressive amouont of progress yourself! Congratulations!

Thanks Connie. My goal is to prove everyone wrong who told me I couldn't get to the weight I wanted by swimming. (Target is 155 - 160.) Then, I can do this - :p !

Originally posted by Conniekat8 Once I get to the best shape I can be in, I'll have Ion for breakfast! :p I'd say the gauntlet has been thrown down. You guys are hosting nationals next year so you've got a whole year to get in the best shape possible. I'll bet Ion will be there. Maybe we can start a betting pool. No pun intended.

Not a smidgeon of an attitute that you sometimes think superstars would have. really didn't expect attitude-most people who can perform at a high level in their field are quite modest-it's the "superstars in their own mind" who are jackasses

2:02 at 10, don't I wish and him too!! He just turned 16, so the 2:02 was 15 year old and the point was he has all the VO2 training in the world. Tons, and tons and tons of it. But his freestyle is not working well this year because of technique. Part of that is his body changing(going from 5 ft to 5-9 in 2 years). His other strokes are doing well, for a while I was thinking his back and fly would be catching his free. Now that he is aware of when he is messing up, he will improve. But right now, only technique will help him. And to boot, he did not train near as much this year, missing some of the crucial December training because of a marching band trip out West. So the drop in the 200 was in a big part due to him working on his technique, more than conditioning. Another thing about triglycerides....I had cholesteral done about 7 years ago. I was 35 pounds overweight, did not eat all that well, but exercised a lot. My triglycerides were at an excellent level and the Doc said those raise more in response to exercise, not diet.

Ion: I see you are back to your old habits of comparing yourself against people in different age groups and a different sex. This is a tired habit of yours when your other arguments fall apart. I also noted that when gull80's assertion didn't suit you, you then took up with Connie, who you then subsequently mocked. In summary, your V02Max theory has been trashed. At the very best, it is a minor contributor to overall conditioning but is not the magic bullet you think it is. You late bloomer theory has been trashed as well. All, well all except you, have clearly stated technique is vastly more important. So, you know what Ion, you are left with nothing - well, that's not true, you are left with making fun of women. You've gotta feel good about that. I guess you checked female on your entry for for UNdianapolis?

Ion: It would help you if you'd stop huffing the chlorine instead of swimming in it. Please remember what you post. You go out of your way to say you are not interested in USMS top ten and openly proclaim you can never attain it due to your down-and-out V02Max and Late Bloomer theories. Then you spout off and claim you are near the top. This is a blatant lie, blatant. At SCY Nats in Tempe last year, you placed 14/18 in your age group in the 1000 (#18 was DQ). You placed 59/67 in your age group in the 100. If being in the bottom 10% of your age group qualifies you as "near the top" then sign me up, amigo. Consider an access database or better yet something more powerful like DB2 or Oracle. Only a database software package like those have the processing power to help you keep track of all the stories you tell. Swampy

When I was in college I took a physiology course. In one lab we performed an EKG(?) (its been a long time) where we measured the electrical output of the heart. My heart was clearly different from the others in the class - in normal circumstances the signals would have indicated a heart too large because of some anomalous stress, and considered at very high risk for further damage and a heart attack. I can't remember the details, but we (the people in my lab group) could determine relative sizes (or at least muscle activity) of the various chambers of the heart. Instead, it was probably a consequence of my training, and not a problem at all, so I know that the heart responds to training by growing larger. I confirmed this at the time by a brief literature search. (as I recall, one paper was titled something like 'why endurance athletes have defective hearts.') What I don't know is if the heart remains large during 20 years of pretty minimal exercise, or if a heart will become larger more easily after restarting training than for someone who never trained as a youth. However, I think it likely that a large heart and the ability to pump more blood per beat is one reason why my resting pulse regularly goes below 50 beats/min, and is often in the low 40's when I wake up. This is after three years of swimming again. Even before I started again my resting pulse was about 60 - 65, which I think is in the low end of normal for sedentary people. It is very likely that increased pumping blood volume contributes to VO2 Max, but I do not think it is necessary or sufficient for a large value of VO2 Max.

ion posts= 125 conniekat= 99 i cannot believe how many posts....will the total exceed 10,000?