I remember P Mulins the author maybe I missed spelled his name talking about swimming being a white upper-middle class sport and the country club set. I guess he had not met Shirley Bashashoff that came from a blue collar background. Anyway, swimmers in elite circles tend to be more from upper-middle families than the non-elite. In high school programs, their are plenty of them from the barrio and the ghetto. Also, he seems to think swimming is divided between whites and blacks. In his state, both Latinos and Asians outnumber blacks. And Latinos are the group lowest on the income level in that state and Arizona mainly done to immirgation. I think the swimming world is seeing that in the states, its not a black and white world anymore,even in the south asians and latins have increase.
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I was saying that it just isn't just black and white anymore. California and Arizona and Texas and New Mexico have huge latin populations. By 2040, LA is going to be 60 percent hispanic even if the immigation legal or illegal slowsdown from Mexico. Latins have done no better than blacks as far as elite swimmers are concern in the United States. He was focusing on the black issue because of the black breaststroker Norment could have swam in the the pan-pacific champonship on the relay. P Mulins did mention about the fact that half of Santa Clara youth is asian, What isn't brouht up in the book is the fact that the biggest minority group in California are latins,mainly Mexicans are almost not mention in the book at all. He did mention PabloMorales, a latin who was Cubian and he didn't think that what Pablo did was as significant as Anthony Ervin. As far as asians maybe physical size rather than participated is the problem. Granted, their are top asians from China and Japan but are fewer of them in the states. Also, in figure skating California has top lady figure skaters like Michelle Kwan and that sports cost thousands of dollars more than swimming. But you can be under 6 foot in that sport and be at the top unlike swimming where more of the top swimmers are over 6 feet.
I was saying that it just isn't just black and white anymore. California and Arizona and Texas and New Mexico have huge latin populations. By 2040, LA is going to be 60 percent hispanic even if the immigation legal or illegal slowsdown from Mexico. Latins have done no better than blacks as far as elite swimmers are concern in the United States. He was focusing on the black issue because of the black breaststroker Norment could have swam in the the pan-pacific champonship on the relay. P Mulins did mention about the fact that half of Santa Clara youth is asian, What isn't brouht up in the book is the fact that the biggest minority group in California are latins,mainly Mexicans are almost not mention in the book at all. He did mention PabloMorales, a latin who was Cubian and he didn't think that what Pablo did was as significant as Anthony Ervin. As far as asians maybe physical size rather than participated is the problem. Granted, their are top asians from China and Japan but are fewer of them in the states. Also, in figure skating California has top lady figure skaters like Michelle Kwan and that sports cost thousands of dollars more than swimming. But you can be under 6 foot in that sport and be at the top unlike swimming where more of the top swimmers are over 6 feet.
