I am looking for a list of Olympian Masters and what Olympics and events they particpated in. If you have such a list or know where one is, please let me know. Individual anecdotes are OK too.
Background:
I want to write to "Splash" magazine and ask them to feature some of the people on such a list when they write about great swimmers. I'm tired of reading (and having my kids read) about so-and-so great swimmer, who got to the Olympics, did great, and now swimming is behind them (i.e. they don't swim anymore). On the "mission statement" of Splash, they give lip service to a lifelong involvement with swimming, but they never seem to come up with an example of such a person.
wiredknight
Mike Burton swam Masters in the mid 70's in Southern California but asked to have his records and references to his swims removed.
Also known as the "Reverse Skip Kenney" manuever. :)
Sorry if any of this appears sarcastic - not intended. The search had literally evolved into a search for a single matching reference, anywhere. And I am relieved that Frank found one.
Well, I for one have noted sarcasm and other covert oddities.
But no matter. I believe there is other data. I'm not convinced it must all live in an official USA database to be deemed worthy. Things do go missing, after all. Who knows?
...they look like very impressive times to me...
Good times, but not Olympic caliber times. Remember these are yards times, not meters. Kaye Hall of Tacoma Swim Club swam a sub 1:00 SCY 100 back in 1967. However, the results Skip found are from 1965, so she would have had three years to improve. At least we now have some kind of data. It's a good start!
Bill: In the record progression for the 100 SCY back, I do see that Kendis Moore set a new record, presumably at Spring Nats in 1967, with a 1:01.30. That time is darn close to the 1:01.63 you cited. See:
www.usaswimming.org/.../New In-depth SCY women.pdf
It's too bad USA Swimming doesn't have all the results from past Nationals on their web site, but these in-depth record histories sure are interesting.
I know if you sign up for Swimming World's web access you can download pdf's of old magazines. Does anyone know how far back their back issues go?
Gail - Olympic Woes I had two - 1952 I was in bed sick, not able to move for six weeks before the trials. I was out of bed a couple of weeks and along came the trials. I was a distance swimmer 440 and one mile swimmer at the time and hoping to qualify to swim the 400m and 1500m at Helsinki. My times indicated I would qualify for sure. But in my weakened state I went unconcious at the 200 mark during the 440 trial and was pulled out of the water by a lifeguard. So I did not see you in Helsinki.
In 1956 the head on hit of the wall ended my hope for a win in the 100m free.
I have read about your Olympic Woes and feel for you.
I remember the USA teams, our coach said the USA girls team all belonged in the movies. Shelley Mann was a favorite of mine.
On page 18 of the magazine they talk about a meet in Fort Worth, Texas. In the 5th paragraph it says this "Arlington Swim Club's Donna Martin produced three wins, Donna took the 15-17 200 yd. individual medley, 2:36.7, 100 yd. backstroke, 1:10.7, and the open 200 yd. backstroke, 2:34.4.
I am wondering if this is the same person as Donna Donn. I know she said she swam in Arlington and the age of this swimmer in the article is very close to the age that Donna is now. So if this is true, then we have source of paperwork that the swimmer swam during this time period. However, it does not authenticate that she swam in the Olympic Trials or the Olympics.
*GASP* :eek:
Yes, I believe that was one of the names Donna competed under. Good detective work. Maybe more digging can produce more real info.
It would lend a little weight to Donna's stance too...at least be something to consider her voice...they look like very impressive times to me...
Skip, you're amazing!
I feel much better knowing there's a matching record. Up to this point, nothing had been found to verify any participation in the 60's. While you're poking around, can you find the "world" record set at the Indoor Nationals in either 1967 or 68? The time was supposed to be a 1:01.63. Also, can you find a record of an English Channel Swim?
Skip, you're amazing!
I feel much better knowing there's a matching record. Up to this point, nothing had been found to verify any participation in the 60's. While you're poking around, can you find the "world" record set at the Indoor Nationals in either 1967 or 68? The time was supposed to be a 1:01.63. Also, can you find a record of an English Channel Swim?
With any luck Frank will find the definitive goods and you can invite a new friend to your guest room!
