Fly Kick vs. Free Kick

I decided to get back into swimming after not swimming seriously for 30 years. Right now, I'm trying to figure out where my weaknesses are, time-wise, but my times don't make sense to me. Freestyle and backstroke have always been my fastest strokes. Butterfly has always been my weakest and *** stroke my slowest. I'm not concerned about my *** stroke right now but today, I discovered that my fly kick is significantly faster than my freestyle kick - like by 8 seconds in 25yds. I find this very weird, especially considering that I'm pigeon toed, making it impossible for me to keep my feet together during the fly kick. I would think that at the very least, my freestyle kick would be as fast as my fly, but not slower. Is this normal? I think there's something seriously wrong with my flutter and whatever is wrong, it's not related to drag (I've already ruled out drag).
  • When I coached HS swimmers- a kid would walk to me & ask what stroke they should work on - I would look down at the feet. Pigeon toed is good for fly, back & free cuz that is the way your body is already bulit, which will make learning breaststroke more of a challenge.
  • ... my fly kick is significantly faster than my freestyle kick ... Is this normal? This is entirely normal. Witness: Elite swimmers do not flutter off the wall, they dolphin off the wall.
  • This is entirely normal. Witness: Elite swimmers do not flutter off the wall, they dolphin off the wall. Although 8 seconds for a 25 might not be normal. That's a pretty big difference!
  • Although 8 seconds for a 25 might not be normal. That's a pretty big difference! Physicists work to the accuracy of several decimals, Chemists to the nearest log unit; Biologists just try to get the sign right.
  • T rex has a really good kick & tail wag but is short in the arm pull. LOL
  • So other than drag, what are some common causes of a slow free kick?
  • Biologists just try to get the sign right. Do microbiologists fall in this category? So other than drag, what are some common causes of a slow free kick?Have you had someone look at your flutter kicking?
  • Have you had someone look at your flutter kicking? My fitness trainer has but unfortunately, swimming isn't his specialty (he's a strength trainer) so the only thing he had to say about it was, "You swim better than I do." I got a paid membership to the USM a few days ago and I'm not sure how it works yet. I guess now would be a good time to contact my LMSC to find out what I've gotten myself into and, hopefully, whatever it is I've gotten myself into includes getting an assessment somewhere.
  • Ankle flexibility is the biggest factor. I agree, but wouldn't poor ankle flexibility cause poor dolphin kicking as well?
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    So other than drag, what are some common causes of a slow free kick? Ankle flexibility is the biggest factor.
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