This thread is in response to Jim Thorton's thread about his AA time being disallowed.I think that if a swimmer swims in a USMS sanctioned meet and that the time gets to the "official" Top Ten list that it should count.Otherwise one could go back and check the length of ,say the Amarillo pool from the first Masters Nationals and if it was 1 cm short disallow the swims.There must be a statute of limitations and I think it should be when the official TT times are posted.
After the top ten, AA, have been deemed final, then NO, the rankings should not be changed. Jimbo has gotten a royal screwing by usms in this case. If the pool issue wasn't addressed during the period where challenges or changes could be addressed, then it shouldn't addressed after the final rankings are published.
Jimbo, you are still the #1 100 freestyle in my book, regardless of the screwing you have been given after the fact.
There is no dispute that Jim had the fastest time in the 100 LCM freestyle for United States men, aged 60-64, in 2012. That swim will not be recognized by USMS, because it was not supported by a certified measurement that the pool is the proper length. Although the USAS team, that owns and runs the pool (NBAC) claims that the pool is the correct length, they have not provided such certification. USMS has on file a certification stating that when the pool was measured (while empty of water) it was an inch or two short. I don't know if NBAC is right, but I do think that they believe their pool is the proper length. USMS will not accept Jim's swim because they believe that the rule requiring that the pool be certified as the correct length, leaves them no choice but to disallow it. I agree that the decision reached by USMS would be correct in most cases, but because of the extenuating circmstances mentioned on the previous posts it is not a fair decision in Jim's case and creates an unjust result. However, I can understand the thought process of the Top 10 Committee.
After the top ten, AA, have been deemed final, then NO, the rankings should not be changed. Jimbo has gotten a royal screwing by usms in this case. If the pool issue wasn't addressed during the period where challenges or changes could be addressed, then it shouldn't addressed after the final rankings are published.
Jimbo, you are still the #1 100 freestyle in my book, regardless of the screwing you have been given after the fact.
There is no dispute that Jim had the fastest time in the 100 LCM freestyle for United States men, aged 60-64, in 2012. That swim will not be recognized by USMS, because it was not supported by a certified measurement that the pool is the proper length. Although the USAS team, that owns and runs the pool (NBAC) claims that the pool is the correct length, they have not provided such certification. USMS has on file a certification stating that when the pool was measured (while empty of water) it was an inch or two short. I don't know if NBAC is right, but I do think that they believe their pool is the proper length. USMS will not accept Jim's swim because they believe that the rule requiring that the pool be certified as the correct length, leaves them no choice but to disallow it. I agree that the decision reached by USMS would be correct in most cases, but because of the extenuating circmstances mentioned on the previous posts it is not a fair decision in Jim's case and creates an unjust result. However, I can understand the thought process of the Top 10 Committee.
