Restated - breaststroke kick rule

Breaststrokers ---- make sure you understand the LATEST ruling on the pull-fly kick- br kick rule that has just been restated. It says that you may use the fly kick AFTER the hands move apart & before the BR kick, on starts & turns, is the way I understand it.
  • a downward motion of the hands also counts. Its movement of the hands they look for, vertically or horizontally. You can maintain a streamline and push your hands down also. Actually it doesn't anymore-www.usms.org/.../20120314_breast_interpretation.pdf By this only a separation of the hands counts. As I have said before ,the early kick is not faster for me(I don't have a great dolphin kick)but it is certainly faster for many BR swimmers ,YMMV. Also the rule for the dolphin kick originally was so swimmers wouldn't get DQd for the "natural undulation" that often occurred during the pulldown.Now,if you use the early kickyou must have no undulation during the pulldown or you risk getting DQd.
  • It says that you may use the fly kick AFTER the hands move apart & before the BR kick "Observable separation" of the hands, where a pause is ok in the action of the underwater pulldown. This might trigger some dq's as the official must see that a separation occurs. I'm practicing a tight streamline to superman flying pose myself with the dolphin kick up front. :angel:
  • Breaststrokers ---- make sure you understand the LATEST ruling on the pull-fly kick- br kick rule that has just been restated. It says that you may use the fly kick AFTER the hands move apart & before the BR kick, on starts & turns, is the way I understand it. a downward motion of the hands also counts. Its movement of the hands they look for, vertically or horizontally. You can maintain a streamline and push your hands down also.
  • Actually it doesn't anymore-www.usms.org/.../20120314_breast_interpretation.pdf By this only a separation of the hands counts. As I have said before ,the early kick is not faster for me(I don't have a great dolphin kick)but it is certainly faster for many BR swimmers ,YMMV. Also the rule for the dolphin kick originally was so swimmers wouldn't get DQd for the "natural undulation" that often occurred during the pulldown.Now,if you use the early kickyou must have no undulation during the pulldown or you risk getting DQd. This is where I do my dolphin kick, near the end of the pulldown phase. I have no problem getting to or a little past 15 meters off the dive, and I can get nearly 1/2way down the pool on all other lengths (most of the time). I don't understand how people "get away with" the dolphin kick at the beginning of the pulldown...it just doesn't seem natural.
  • I believe the restating of the rule is the result of the start and turn innovation in the underwater phase of breaststroke. After the dolphin kick became legal, most swimmers synchronized the dolphin kick with the underwater pull out and followed it with a single breaststroke kick before emerging from the water. The innovation is that if one does the dolphin kick in a streamlined position first, then the underwater pull and finally the single breaststroke kick (in that order) - one obtains a significant advantage in that the swimmer travels further underwater as opposed to any other method. The advantage increases if you are in a very tight streamlined position when you do your first dolphin kick (e.g., hand over hand, shoulders pressed into your ears). The new rule reduces this advantage slightly. You can (should) experiment with the sequence of actions.
  • Actually it doesn't anymore-www.usms.org/.../20120314_breast_interpretation.pdf By this only a separation of the hands counts. As I have said before ,the early kick is not faster for me(I don't have a great dolphin kick)but it is certainly faster for many BR swimmers ,YMMV. Also the rule for the dolphin kick originally was so swimmers wouldn't get DQd for the "natural undulation" that often occurred during the pulldown.Now,if you use the early kickyou must have no undulation during the pulldown or you risk getting DQd. I stand corrected. Funny, the last time I got clarification on this rule was only TWO days before that new interpretation was published (it was at Sectionals the first weekend of March). That was what I was referring to in my previous post. Good to know.
  • Deleted my response because I see that this is a FINA interpretation. This will be interesting. Most elites appear to do the dolphin kick first and without any discernible hand separation (at least as far as I can tell from the underwater cameras). I will be shocked if they really DQ people for this at the Olympics but if they don't, I will continue to be frustrated that the elites can get away with this while I can't!
  • Now that a single dolphin kick (DK) is allowed, the rule says the swimmers hands must be in motion before the swimmer can do her single dolphin kick. Motion is defined as a separation of her hands. So a swimmer streamling in locked position can shift to an unlocked streamline. Your hands can be just a bit apart and it is legal to do your dolphin kick. Superman streamline implies shoulder width, which is too wide. I suggest a little separation, enough so it is visible to judges but not too much. Maybe 2, 3 or 4 inches apart. Swimmers can DK before, during or after their pulldowns. Before allows the swimmer to DK while still streamlined which many feel is faster. The sequence is: 1) Push off & glide in a locked streamline, 2) unlock your streamline by separating your hands a few inches then pause 3) DK & glide some then 4) begin your pull down Learn how to do an optimal unlocked streamline
  • If I remember why this came to be. An Olympic br swimmer got away with this & did not get DQ'd ---- so other started doing it till they made some changes.
  • This video has really helped me, so far. Is the rule again different or did they just clarify? http://youtu.be/7S1fy8K7FQI