Dual Meets

I will answer your question in more general terms, for any meet (not just a dual meet). The advantages of obtaining a sanction instead of a recognition are: 1) More comprehensive insurance coverage for the event. In a sanctioned meet, the swimmers, officials, volunteers, and meet director are all covered by our insurance. This is not the case in a recognized event. See the Insurance Grid on Page 9 of our General Insurance Information. 2) Times swum in a sanctioned meet can be considered for FINA Top10 and FINA world records. Times swum in a recognized meet cannot be considered for FINA Top10 and world records (but they can be considered for USMS Top10 and records). Anna Lea, you are a treasure! Pith and readability! As long as you mention these two items, one additional general question and a general observation. The question: How often is USMS insurance actually used to pay claims, and what are the most common claims? Swimmers slipping and falling in locker rooms? Starters developing tinnitus after years of shooting blanks (in yesteryear) and blasting beeping horns (today)? Cerebral vascular events provoked by having Top 10 times from Canadian Nationals failing to count for USMS TT consideration? Really, I am curious about this. Lots of different organizations have insurance, but in my experience, I have never seen anyone make a claim and/or get paid. On a completely separate front, what would you say is the easiest way to make a fraudulent claim and not get caught? Maybe even just get paid a small settlement to "go away"? Again, this is purely intellectual curiosity and not a request for some sort of "how-to" manual, though if you did happen to have one, could you send me a copy? The observation: Assuming Paul's proposed dual meet is in a SCY venue, FINA TT/Records don't apply anyway. And from what I have managed to glean over the years from Paul's occasional libertarian-minded postings, the idea that anybody might benefit from insurance (which is as close to socialist collectivism as our corporate overlords will ever venture) seems to me a likely anathema to Paul's philosophical approach. Thus I would venture to suggest he would probably be better off going for a recognition that a sanction. Hold it in a yards pool where the rest of the world could care less about the results. And hold it without any kind of namby pamby insurance coverage, and let Darwinian forces hold sway.

I will answer your question in more general terms, for any meet (not just a dual meet). The advantages of obtaining a sanction instead of a recognition are: 1) More comprehensive insurance coverage for the event. In a sanctioned meet, the swimmers, officials, volunteers, and meet director are all covered by our insurance. This is not the case in a recognized event. See the Insurance Grid on Page 9 of our General Insurance Information. 2) Times swum in a sanctioned meet can be considered for FINA Top10 and FINA world records. Times swum in a recognized meet cannot be considered for FINA Top10 and world records (but they can be considered for USMS Top10 and records). Anna Lea, you are a treasure! Pith and readability! As long as you mention these two items, one additional general question and a general observation. The question: How often is USMS insurance actually used to pay claims, and what are the most common claims? Swimmers slipping and falling in locker rooms? Starters developing tinnitus after years of shooting blanks (in yesteryear) and blasting beeping horns (today)? Cerebral vascular events provoked by having Top 10 times from Canadian Nationals failing to count for USMS TT consideration? Really, I am curious about this. Lots of different organizations have insurance, but in my experience, I have never seen anyone make a claim and/or get paid. On a completely separate front, what would you say is the easiest way to make a fraudulent claim and not get caught? Maybe even just get paid a small settlement to "go away"? Again, this is purely intellectual curiosity and not a request for some sort of "how-to" manual, though if you did happen to have one, could you send me a copy? The observation: Assuming Paul's proposed dual meet is in a SCY venue, FINA TT/Records don't apply anyway. And from what I have managed to glean over the years from Paul's occasional libertarian-minded postings, the idea that anybody might benefit from insurance (which is as close to socialist collectivism as our corporate overlords will ever venture) seems to me a likely anathema to Paul's philosophical approach. Thus I would venture to suggest he would probably be better off going for a recognition that a sanction. Hold it in a yards pool where the rest of the world could care less about the results. And hold it without any kind of namby pamby insurance coverage, and let Darwinian forces hold sway.