Greensboro Nats - Who's In?

With the entry deadline not too far away (March 23), let's see who's going and what they will be swimming. Sent the entry off on Sunday: 50, 100, 200 *** 200 Fly 200 (6th Event), 400 IM
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  • We will look at that issue separately. Personally I think the international thing has a better chance of passing if it is decoupled from the USA-S issue. It is counterintuitive that a FINA WR is not eligible for USMS top ten or records, this is more a matter of respecting other masters NGBs and FINA masters standards. However, FINA doesn't recognize anything done at a USA-S meet. The committee will look at domestic measurements more generally and decide what (if any) rule proposals to make. But of course, LMSCs can also propose rule changes so if the officers in your LMSC feel strongly about this issue then I encourage your LMSC to submit something. I was not thinking so much about FINA recognizing anything because we all know they only recognize swims in member masters sanctioned meets. I was thinking the USMS Top Ten when swimmers swim in US Opens, US-A Nationals, Grand Prix where they really can't measure between sessions. The international meets and USA meets seem to follow doing the same thing with regards to not doing measurements after sessions in bulkhead pools. The only thing to me that makes this weird is if we changed the rule to let international rules apply to USMS Top Ten, then USMS would have tighter, stricter rules of pool measurement for our own sanctioned meets for inclusion into USMS Top Ten and I honestly don't know how the House of Delegates would view this. Another proposal would be for USMS to follow FINA and International guidelines of pool measurement and require what we did pre 2002. I am not sure how this would be accepted and we have been operating for the last 9 years doing multiple measurements and we may not want to change. My LMSC is lucky because the 3 SCM meets we host are all in fixed wall pools. I think we would welcome a change to accept the FINA international rule for bulkhead pools because across the Detroit river in Windsor Canada they are building a state of the art 50 meter pool and a 25 meter pool housed in a new Natatorium.
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  • We will look at that issue separately. Personally I think the international thing has a better chance of passing if it is decoupled from the USA-S issue. It is counterintuitive that a FINA WR is not eligible for USMS top ten or records, this is more a matter of respecting other masters NGBs and FINA masters standards. However, FINA doesn't recognize anything done at a USA-S meet. The committee will look at domestic measurements more generally and decide what (if any) rule proposals to make. But of course, LMSCs can also propose rule changes so if the officers in your LMSC feel strongly about this issue then I encourage your LMSC to submit something. I was not thinking so much about FINA recognizing anything because we all know they only recognize swims in member masters sanctioned meets. I was thinking the USMS Top Ten when swimmers swim in US Opens, US-A Nationals, Grand Prix where they really can't measure between sessions. The international meets and USA meets seem to follow doing the same thing with regards to not doing measurements after sessions in bulkhead pools. The only thing to me that makes this weird is if we changed the rule to let international rules apply to USMS Top Ten, then USMS would have tighter, stricter rules of pool measurement for our own sanctioned meets for inclusion into USMS Top Ten and I honestly don't know how the House of Delegates would view this. Another proposal would be for USMS to follow FINA and International guidelines of pool measurement and require what we did pre 2002. I am not sure how this would be accepted and we have been operating for the last 9 years doing multiple measurements and we may not want to change. My LMSC is lucky because the 3 SCM meets we host are all in fixed wall pools. I think we would welcome a change to accept the FINA international rule for bulkhead pools because across the Detroit river in Windsor Canada they are building a state of the art 50 meter pool and a 25 meter pool housed in a new Natatorium.
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