These times are amazing:
Kyle van Niekerk - 13 year old!
His results were as follows:
100m Free: Gold in a winning time of 53.89 – New African and South African AG Record
50m Free: Gold in a winning time of 24.69 – a New African and South African AG Record and the fastest recorded time in the world for 13- year- olds during 2011.
Yes these are long course meters. Puts it all in perspective for us geezers :cane:
Kids that already have NCAA A cuts most likely won't do a full taper for their conference meet. It's just too close to NCAAs. Stanford always gets criticized for putting too much emphasis on winning their conference meet and then under performing at NCs. Since they've won 30 years in a row they've got a lot at stake!
Oh, I don't know about that Ande. Certainly in the running but there have been a ton of superlatives in HS. One that immediately comes to mind is Joe Hudepohl. Ironically he also went to Stanford.
Geek,
HS is scy, Joe Hudepohl went 43.43 in 1992 in the 100 scy free which puts him 16th in the 100 SCY Freestyle
on the All Time Top 100 Age Group Times Men's 17-18 .
Was Joe in HS when he did that time or a college freshman?
David went 42.24 in a jammer in 2011 in a HS meet.
Joe was pretty much a freestyler.
David swims everything.
David's 1:41.39 200 IM, is almost 2.5 seconds ahead Dan trupin's 1:43.83.
Phelps was 1:44.30 in 2004
Lochte was 1:44.58 in 2003
Pablo Morales was 1:47.82 in 1984
Hudepohl's 49.52 100 LCM fr in 1992 was pretty incredible, was he in HS when he did it?
Geek,
HS is scy, Joe Hudepohl went 43.43 in 1992 in the 100 scy free which puts him 16th on the All Time Top 100 Age Group Times Men's 17-18 100 SCY Freestyle. Was Joe in HS when he did that time?
David went 42.24 in a jammer in 2011.
Joe was pretty much a freestyler.
David swims everything. David's 1:41.39 200 IM, is almost 2.5 seconds ahead Dan trupin's 1:43.83.
Phelps was 1:44.30 in 2004
Lochte was 1:44.58 in 2003
Pablo Morales was 1:47.82 in 1984
Hudepohl's 49.52 100 LCM fr in 1992 was pretty incredible, was he in HS when he did it?
My point is that calling someone the greatest ever is fairly subjective and there are many subjective criteria. It seems like every year we see some new phenom and want to call them the greatest ever. Of course, we all know that only one person is the GOAT, Ali.
Oh, and check #45 on the list. It's my personal mission to see to it that we don't ship another of our superstars to you. It has to stop!
How about Jeff Kostoff? His high record in the 500 free was the American record at the time and to this day is still the high school record in the event. 4:16.39 swum on 5/14/83. Kostoff also swam at Stanford, by the way.
Peter Williams is a former world record holder in the 50 freestyle.
I held this misperception too, but our resident swim scholar, Frank Thompson, enlighten me on the details:
Peter Williams went a world best of 22.18 in the 50M free in 1988. It is thought that because South Africa was not allowed to participate in international sports for political reasons that Williams' swim was not recognized as a World Record. However, that is not the accurate. The reason the swim is not recognized is because it was performed in a time trial.
In August of 1980 Gary Schatz of the US went a 22.6 in the 50M free in a time trial which was also WR. Because there were no political issues to create a subterfuge he is never miscredited for holding the WR. Because I know and like Gary, maybe we can start saying that he was the WR holder in the 50 but didn't get it recognized because the US refused to participate in the Olympics?
I'll bet there are a few here in there in the UK and Canada, built back when the Imperial system was still dominant.
I am sure there are some but I don't know of any pools that are only 25 yards in BC. At Universities at UBC their 50m indoor pool when setup for widths part is 25m and part is 25y. They also have a 55 yard outdoor pool. At UVic they have an L shaped pool which is 25m or 25y depending on how they setup the lane ropes. One of the public pools near me looks like it might have been converted from 25y to 25m from the turn markings on the bottom. We also have a 150 yard outdoor pool in Vancouver.
Should be an interesting trials in June. Aside from the IM, US coaches are keeping an eye on David for both the 100 free and 100 back.
Interestingly Bob Bowman suggested that he could very well beat Michael Phelps in the 200 IM. 1:41 in a jammer is pretty ridiculous. 200 IM AAA Mens final - YouTube
How about Jeff Kostoff?
He's still holding the 1,000 record ...almost 20 years later?!
1 8:48.57 Jeffrey Kostoff 1983
But where do they still swim the 1000? Not in high school, I don't think. Is it even still a college event, or has it been supplanted by the 1650?
The 1000 is in the usual college dual meet order of events. It's the first event after the medley relay. The 1650 is swum less often, but always at the championship meets (and the 1000 is NOT swum at championships). At least that's how it's done in Division I. Not positive about the others.