Fast South African Age Grouper

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These times are amazing: Kyle van Niekerk - 13 year old! His results were as follows: 100m Free: Gold in a winning time of 53.89 – New African and South African AG Record 50m Free: Gold in a winning time of 24.69 – a New African and South African AG Record and the fastest recorded time in the world for 13- year- olds during 2011. Yes these are long course meters. Puts it all in perspective for us geezers :cane:
  • Not to get off topic, but along the same lines, this kid has been doing some amazing swimming in the past year. David Nolan 100 Back 45.49! - YouTube David Nolan 42.34! 400 Free Relay 3:00.71 - YouTube He's from Hershey, PA, right? How is he doing at Stanford this year? I think his 200 i.m. time last year at the PA state meet would have won at NCAAs. His turns are absolutely incredible--an advantage, alas, he loses in long course, which may be why you don't hear about his as much in international meet discussions.
  • From the psych sheets of the PAC-10 championships. Do people get seeded according to their fastest recorded time of the season? Or could Nolan be sandbagging? These times look slower than what he did in high school. Event 4 Men 200 Yard IM Pac 10: 1:41.72 2007 Adam Ritter Pac 10 Meet: 1:42.01 2011 Austin K Staab NCAA: 1:40.49 3/26/2009 Bradley Ally Name School Seed Time 1 Chitwood, Cory ARIZ-AZ 1:41.92 2 Thompson, Austen ARIZ-AZ 1:43.42 3 Colupaev, Dimitri USC-CA 1:44.10 4 Lendrum, Alex USC-CA 1:44.42 5 Nolan, Dave STAN-PC 1:44.69 Event 9 Men 100 Yard Butterfly Pac 10: 44.18 2008 Austin Staab Pac 10 Meet: 44.66 2011 Austin K Staab NCAA: 44.18 3/27/2009 Austin Staab Name School Seed Time 1 Shields, Tom CAL-PC 45.67 2 Smith, Giles ARIZ-AZ 46.13 3 Bloch, Chase USC-CA 46.83 4 Nolan, Dave STAN-PC 47.04 Event 12 Men 100 Yard Backstroke Pac 10: 44.83 2007 Albert Subirats Pac 10 Meet: 45.21 2004 Peter Marshall NCAA: 44.60 3/23/2006 Ryan Lochte Name School Seed Time 1 Friedemann, Mitchell ARIZ-AZ 45.86 2 Chitwood, Cory ARIZ-AZ 45.94 3 Shields, Tom CAL-PC 46.53 4 Lendrum, Alex USC-CA 46.71 5 Gydesen, Mathias CAL-PC 47.15 6 Morozov, Vlad USC-CA 47.18 7 Nolan, Dave STAN-PC 47.23 Event 16 Men 200 Yard Backstroke Pac 10: 1:38.67 2009 Jake Tapp Pac 10 Meet: 1:40.51 2009 Eugene Godson NCAA: 1:37.58 3/28/2009 Tyler Clary Name School Seed Time 1 Chitwood, Cory ARIZ-AZ 1:38.85 2 Lendrum, Alex USC-CA 1:40.82 3 Sheppard, Michael ARIZ-AZ 1:41.51 4 Nolan, Dave STAN-PC 1:42.05
  • Or could Nolan be sandbagging? Maybe he will request a split time cause the order of events isn't to his liking.
  • Maybe he will request a split time cause the order of events isn't to his liking. Well, if he does end up doing his seed times, I challenge Swimming World to write an article: Stanford swim coach's training regimen adds 3 seconds to high school phenom's 200 IM time!
  • He's from Hershey, PA, right? How is he doing at Stanford this year? I think his 200 i.m. time last year at the PA state meet would have won at NCAAs. His turns are absolutely incredible--an advantage, alas, he loses in long course, which may be why you don't hear about his as much in international meet discussions. David Nolan is THE greatest male high school swimmer ever. He's a phenomenal dolphin kicker & a very versatile swimmer. No weak strokes. Very good long course but incredible short course. Swims for Stanford. He's swum some great inseason unshaved unrested times. 050 FR 20.26 100 FR 43.34 200 FR 1:35.94 500 FR 4:31.79 100 BK 47.50 200 BK 1:42.05 100 BR 54.83 200 BR 1:59.35 100 FL 47.04 200 IM 1:44.69 400 IM 3:54.42 you can see em at: NCAA DIVISION I TIMES SEARCH (individuals) NCAA DIVISION I EVENT RANK SEARCH Pac-12 Championships begin Wed Feb 29th. I look forward to seeing how he does at conference & NCAAs.
  • From the psych sheets of the PAC-10 championships. Do people get seeded according to their fastest recorded time of the season? Or could Nolan be sandbagging? I believe seed times are fastest times this season. Arizona rested shaved and swam lights out at the UT Invite (Dec 2011)
  • Maybe he will request a split time cause the order of events isn't to his liking. Maybe college life is too much to his liking. When he is a geezerish masters swimmer with various aching body parts, maybe he'll use a split request too. Kids don't need rest.
  • David Nolan is THE greatest male high school swimmer ever. Oh, I don't know about that Ande. Certainly in the running but there have been a ton of superlatives in HS. One that immediately comes to mind is Joe Hudepohl. Ironically he also went to Stanford.
  • 100 BK 47.50 200 BK 1:42.05 100 FL 47.04 200 IM 1:44.69 you can see em at: NCAA DIVISION I TIMES SEARCH (individuals) NCAA DIVISION I EVENT RANK SEARCH Pac-12 Championships begin Wed Feb 29th. I look forward to seeing how he does at conference & NCAAs. So it looks like his seed times are actual times he did during the season? I guess sandbagging is not an option in the NCAA? It does make you wonder how the guys seeded ahead of him went so fast, presumably in a similarly unrested, unshaved, and untapered condition. Ande, do guys at this level taper for their conference championships or NCAAs or both? Do most of the top swimmers do better at NCAAs, or are intraconference rivalries so strong that they try to peak for their conference championships? Or are they in such great shape it doesn't matter?
  • Ande, do guys at this level taper for their conference championships or NCAAs or both? Do most of the top swimmers do better at NCAAs, or are intraconference rivalries so strong that they try to peak for their conference championships? Jimster - I was actually talking about this topic yesterday with a teammate who has a son at Burnt Orange Bevo U. He said at that level, and especially in a conf with only three schools that swim, that NCAAs are the target.